Fake news

[Risto the Great]

Such a lovely "Trumpism" to refer to fake news nowadays. But is anybody else starting to see a a few news articles that don't look quite right. Especially in relation to the upcoming referendum?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/how-macedonia-could-push-nato-war-29702

The above looks quite half arsed and is an example of what I am talking about.

[Risto the Great]

I have never seen so much trash about Macedonia written at any other time in my life. The west is entirely playing this treachery out with its fake news and it has been relentless. I am disgusted.

[Phoenix]

I have never seen so much trash about Macedonia written at any other time in my life. The west is entirely playing this treachery out with its fake news and it has been relentless. I am disgusted.

...it has to be the Russians infiltrating western media outlets...the west (i.e. USA) is the beacon for all good and honest things................my arse.

[julie]

http://www.wmc-a.com/macedonian-referendum-in-australia/

SDMS news sites earlier today were reporting the WMC -A members present outside the Embassies counting the cmbined total of SIXTEEN people going inside to vote for a name change, were attended by VIC state police and the AFP in Canberra. They reported that all the individuals, at least 12 members were all prosecuted and jailed. I can categorically hand on heart report that this is FALSE, all the WMC team members shared zelnik, sandwiches and kebabi with the attending police who were all photographed smiling

http://www.minareport.com/2018/09/30/bailys-junta-make-up-stories-to-justify-catastrophic-referendum-turnout-in-diaspora/

http://www.wmc-a.com/macedonian-referendum-in-australia/

[Liberator of Makedonija]

http://www.wmc-a.com/macedonian-refe...-in-australia/

SDMS news sites earlier today were reporting the WMC -A members present outside the Embassies counting the cmbined total of SIXTEEN people going inside to vote for a name change, were attended by VIC state police and the AFP in Canberra. They reported that all the individuals, at least 12 members were all prosecuted and jailed. I can categorically hand on heart report that this is FALSE, all the WMC team members shared zelnik, sandwiches and kebabi with the attending police who were all photographed smiling

http://www.minareport.com/2018/09/30/bailys-junta-make-up-stories-to-justify-catastrophic-referendum-turnout-in-diaspora/

http://www.wmc-a.com/macedonian-refe...-in-australia/

If this doesn't show the lengths the Zaev junta is willing to go to to cover up the truth and misinform the people, I don't know what does.

[kompir]

Fake news has been a problem since day dot. However in days gone by, it was indiscernible from accurate news. It is only recently that the distinction has been made between real and fake news.

"The first casualty when war comes is truth"

- Hiram Johnson.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Such a lovely "Trumpism" to refer to fake news nowadays.

One of the most accurate "trumpisms" of our day.

fake news has been so rampant over here in North America.......

Rampant is an understatement. Most mainstream media in the U.S. is a joke. Much of the mainstream media in Australia is not too far behind.

Here is another typical example of stupidity and fake news.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/macedonia-votes-name-end-greek-row-022858606--spt.html 

West welcomes Macedonia vote backing new name to end Greek row

by Sally MAIRS and Saska CVETKOVSKA
Agence-France Presse1 October 2018

Macedonian voters backed a plan to rename the country aimed at ending a decades-long spat with Greece and unlocking a path to NATO and EU membership, with the West welcoming the result although the referendum was marred by low turnout.

FAKE NEWS. Macedonians did NOT back this so-called plan. A minority of the Macedonian citizenry voted for this "plan". A side note, pretty sure this article was initially titled as something like "Macedonian voters backed a plan to rename the country" but has seemingly been changed hours later to "West welcomes Macedonia vote backing new name to end Greek row".

However, only a third of the 1.8 million-strong electorate voted.

Why doesn't the article mention the fact that this so-called referendum is void due to the low turnout?

The European Union urged all sides to respect the result and NATO head Jens Stoltenberg said on Twitter it was a "historic opportunity", adding: "NATO's door is open."

FAKE NEWS. This result is null and void due to low turnout. Urging people to respect this result is disrespectful towards the overwhelming majority of Macedonians, not just in Macedonia but across the world.

The referendum is not binding, but a "yes" majority gives parliament a political mandate to change the constitution.

FAKE NEWS. The majority is only valid if the turnout is above 50%. It isn't. So it's doesn't.

Europe and the US have campaigned hard for the deal, with many leaders passing through Skopje this month to urge Macedonians to seize the "historic" opportunity.........The West is keen to have another foothold in the Western Balkans, a region where Russia, which is opposed to NATO expansion, has historically had influence.

So the effort of the West in Macedonia is just an attempt to obtain a "foothold", whereas the effort of Russia in Macedonia is meddling.

[Soldier of Macedon]

How about this Casule idiot, supposed "Macedonian".

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/macedonia-name-change-hangs-in-balance-as-voters-snub-referendum-20181001-p5070k.html

Macedonia name change hangs in balance as voters snub referendum

By Ivana Sekularac & Kole Casule Updated 1 October 2018 — 6:15am first published at 6:00am


Because of the dispute, Greece has vetoed Macedonia's entrance into NATO and the EU. While a majority of Macedonians want to join NATO and the EU, nationalist opponents of the name change argued that it undermines the ethnic identity of Macedonia's Slavic majority population.

Why any Macedonian would unnecessarily demote the Macedonians of Macedonia to a mere linguistic grouping and refer to them as the "Slavic majority" is beyond me. I guess it would make sense if I ever see an article written by an Englishman referring to England's Germanic (i.e., ethnic English) majority, but I'm afraid as a collective the English aren't nearly as feeble and self-defeatist as some of our so-called kinsmen.

[Karposh]

How about this Casule idiot, supposed "Macedonian".

Unless there is another Kole Casule, this could be another case of "Fake News". The Kole Casule I'm thinking of passed away in 2009.

https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5_%D0%A7%D0%B0%D1%88%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B5

[Soldier of Macedon]

Unless there is another Kole Casule, this could be another case of "Fake News". The Kole Casule I'm thinking of passed away in 2009.

https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...83%D0%BB%D0%B5

I've heard of him. Interesting bio, most of it looked good until I read this:

Во 1946 година Чашуле е член на судскиот совет што го осудува неговиот сограѓанин Методија Андонов - Ченто на 11-годишна затворска казна.

[Karposh]

I've heard of him. Interesting bio, most of it looked good until I read this:

Yeah, that's how I came across his name too. His name has become infamous and synonymous with Chento's demise.

On an interesting side note, I don't know if he's related to Kole or not but there is another Chashule, Ilija, who has spent a decade or more living among the Hunza people in Pakistan and trying to learn their "Burushaski" language to see if their is any connection with the modern Macedonian language. He was a professor of Slavonic Studies at Sydney's Macquarie University. Not sure if he's still teaching there though.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Yeah, that's how I came across his name too. His name has become infamous and synonymous with Chento's demise.

On an interesting side note, I don't know if he's related to Kole or not but there is another Chashule, Ilija, who has spent a decade or more living among the Hunza people in Pakistan and trying to learn their "Burushaski" language to see if their is any connection with the modern Macedonian language. He was a professor of Slavonic Studies at Sydney's Macquarie University. Not sure if he's still teaching there though.

More on that topic here.

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3339

[Gocka]

WTF is going one with EU heads and US state department claiming victory with the referendum? Bunch of freaking fascists. I wonder if they would apply these same standards to their own people.

More than anything that has happened before this should be a a lesson to Macedonians that the EU is a fascist scam.

[Risto the Great]

The USA and EU agenda is vigorously blatant. I hope no Macedonians forget this.

[Bill77]

The USA and EU agenda is vigorously blatant. I hope no Macedonians forget this.

Sorry...... did you say something Risto? ......... Is what this lady would say to you.