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  • George S.
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    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    Greece offers 'war relief' to Greek-origin Ukrainians

    Greece offers 'war relief' to Greek-origin Ukrainians



    Greece has said it would give special treatment to Greek-origin Ukrainians on the front line who want to resettle in the EU.


    Greece has said it would give special treatment to Greek-origin Ukrainians on the front line who want to resettle in the EU.
    Its foreign ministry told EUobserver on Tuesday (25 August) the 90,000 or so Greek-origin people who live in the Mariupol region in Ukraine would be treated as “returnees”, not as ordinary refugees or asylum seekers.

    “Greek Ukranians (not possessing Greek citizenship) who would choose to resettle to Greece would get a special status - as was the case with people of Greek origin emigrating to Greece after the split-up of the former Soviet Union”, Anastasia Christofilopoulou, a Greek spokeswoman, said.
    “At that time, there were special provisions facilitating citizenship-acquisition and granting of professional/social rights. In a similar case, similar measures would probably apply”.

    Targeted village



    Sartana, a majority-Greek village near Mariupol, was, on 16 August, shelled by pro-Russia forces for 25 minutes, killing three people and damaging 170 homes.

    It’s the fifth time it’s been targeted.

    A Russian Grad rocket attack in October killed seven people. A Grad attack on the city of Mariupol, where most diaspora Greeks live, in January, killed 30 people.

    Christofilopoulou said even if violence escalates, the “scenario of the whole community resettling in Greece is highly improbable”.

    But if there is a large exodus, it would put further strain on a country already struggling with a financial crisis and with mass-scale migration from the Middle East.

    Christofilopoulou said the official number of Greek-origin people in Mariupol is 91,000, but the Federation of Greek Communities of Mariupol, an NGO, estimates the real number is “much higher”.

    Meanwhile, Greece, on Monday, began flying 191 Greek-origin children and elderly people from Kiev to Rhodes, a Greek island.

    They first drove 780km from Mariupol to Kiev because the conflict has closed Mariupol’s airport.

    They're to stay in Rhodes until 12 September to get “relief from the war”, the foreign ministry said, and to learn about Greek culture.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV
  • Amphipolis
    Banned
    • Aug 2014
    • 1328

    #2
    You opened these identical four threads AGAIN back in September 1st (one month ago). Actually they were useless back then as they are now. What's wrong with you?

    I remind you the forum doesn't have a moderator to clean up everything you do.

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #3
      Yes its relevant as your country is racist bs country.“Greek Ukranians (not possessing Greek citizenship) who would choose to resettle to Greece would get a special status - as was the case with people of Greek origin emigrating to Greece after the split-up of the former Soviet Union”, Anastasia Christofilopoulou, a Greek spokeswoman, said.
      “At that time, there were special provisions facilitating citizenship-acquisition and granting of professional/social rights. In a similar case, similar measures would probably apply”.Also its relevant as you don't like to be reminded that's greek settlers and you don't care for any Syrian refugees.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        #4
        They're to stay in Rhodes until 12 September to get “relief from the war”, the foreign ministry said, and to learn about Greek cultureThis is greek hypocrysy of the highest order.
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • Poligiros
          Banned
          • Mar 2014
          • 121

          #5
          Originally posted by George S. View Post
          Greece offers 'war relief' to Greek-origin Ukrainians


          Greece has said it would give special treatment to Greek-origin Ukrainians on the front line who want to resettle in the EU.


          Greece has said it would give special treatment to Greek-origin Ukrainians on the front line who want to resettle in the EU.
          Its foreign ministry told EUobserver on Tuesday (25 August) the 90,000 or so Greek-origin people who live in the Mariupol region in Ukraine would be treated as “returnees”, not as ordinary refugees or asylum seekers.

          “Greek Ukranians (not possessing Greek citizenship) who would choose to resettle to Greece would get a special status - as was the case with people of Greek origin emigrating to Greece after the split-up of the former Soviet Union”, Anastasia Christofilopoulou, a Greek spokeswoman, said.


          Christofilopoulou said the official number of Greek-origin people in Mariupol is 91,000, but the Federation of Greek Communities of Mariupol, an NGO, estimates the real number is “much higher”.

          They're to stay in Rhodes until 12 September to get “relief from the war”, the foreign ministry said, and to learn about Greek culture.
          Smart move by the Hellenic government. Christian Hellenes with a Slavic/Ukranian mixture will integrate and provide a boost to a low population growth in the Hellenic republic. The next generation will be particularly valuable to economic growth.

          Don't forget the real issue is with rampant Islamisation in Europe. The Hellenic government and people have discriminatory psyche towards islamic immigrants and will always remain > 95% Hellenic, however other countries have their share of large, problematic Islamic minorities including the Republic of Macedonia.

          In addition, we all know that the economic islamic migrants use the Hellenic republic as an entry point, however if they start moving north and find a welcoming Islamic community that employs them on their rural villages/farms then they may decide to stay and marry to raise more Muslims.

          Don't worry about us, we have large powerful diaspora communities in four corners of the globe that we can leverage off in one way or another.

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          • Toska
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 137

            #6
            Originally posted by Poligiros View Post
            Smart move by the Hellenic government. Christian Hellenes with a Slavic/Ukranian mixture will integrate and provide a boost to a low population growth in the Hellenic republic. The next generation will be particularly valuable to economic growth.

            Don't forget the real issue is with rampant Islamisation in Europe. The Hellenic government and people have discriminatory psyche towards islamic immigrants and will always remain > 95% Hellenic, however other countries have their share of large, problematic Islamic minorities including the Republic of Macedonia.

            In addition, we all know that the economic islamic migrants use the Hellenic republic as an entry point, however if they start moving north and find a welcoming Islamic community that employs them on their rural villages/farms then they may decide to stay and marry to raise more Muslims.

            Don't worry about us, we have large powerful diaspora communities in four corners of the globe that we can leverage off in one way or another.
            funny how alot of the child refugees, went to this part of the world, my good mates dad grew up in ukraine till he was 12, he is from lerin.

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            • George S.
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10116

              #7
              All that resettling comes at a cost.WHo knows if the settlers will pay anything?also the unemployment is pretty high in greece in excess of 30 percent.Also the islamazation of eu is a by product of the syrian war.Also the un requirement of countries giving refugees safe asylym comes at a cost.
              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
              GOTSE DELCEV

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              • Dejan
                Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 589

                #8
                Originally posted by Poligiros View Post
                Smart move by the Hellenic government. Christian Hellenes with a Slavic/Ukranian mixture will integrate and provide a boost to a low population growth in the Hellenic republic. The next generation will be particularly valuable to economic growth.

                Don't forget the real issue is with rampant Islamisation in Europe. The Hellenic government and people have discriminatory psyche towards islamic immigrants and will always remain > 95% Hellenic, however other countries have their share of large, problematic Islamic minorities including the Republic of Macedonia.

                In addition, we all know that the economic islamic migrants use the Hellenic republic as an entry point, however if they start moving north and find a welcoming Islamic community that employs them on their rural villages/farms then they may decide to stay and marry to raise more Muslims.

                Don't worry about us, we have large powerful diaspora communities in four corners of the globe that we can leverage off in one way or another.
                So now you welcome 'slavs'? Lol
                You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

                A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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                • Poligiros
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 121

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Toska View Post
                  funny how alot of the child refugees, went to this part of the world, my good mates dad grew up in ukraine till he was 12, he is from lerin.
                  You are correct, I worked with an older gentleman with a Hellenic surname, who told me he was born in Ukraine and parents migrated to Australia 50 years earlier but identified as Macedonian. Could swing both ways as he spoke Hellenic.

                  However, these people become pure Hellenes within 10 years, I remember the Russo-Pontians that came in the late 90s, most had a Hellenic grandfather, they are very Hellenic today as a their children.

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    #10
                    The diaspora is largely ignored as they are moulded by govt propaganda and dogma to yield as a lobby g roup to be manipulated.THis is not like the macedonian diaspora
                    Who is largely ignored .
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Poligiros
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 121

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dejan View Post
                      So now you welcome 'slavs'? Lol
                      The Hellenes don't have a problem with Slavs? Don't forget we actually recognised you as "Slav-Macedonians" at a point in the 1900s.

                      It seems that the younger generation of Macedonians have an issue with "Slavs", and seem to deny anything Slavonic about modern Macedonian language, culture or ancestry?

                      In fact that would be the silver bullet to all our woes if you guys embraced a Slavic compromised determinant to the "M" issue, instead of rejecting any Hellenic aspect related to the Macedonian region in the last 3000 years?

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        #12
                        PoliSLAVros, tell me my dear friend. Is "slav" a derogatory term for Greeks? Was your initial reaction one of offence when I re-baptised you?

                        No real need to answer, we all know the answer.
                        cheers
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Poligiros
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 121

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                          PoliSLAVros, tell me my dear friend. Is "slav" a derogatory term for Greeks? Was your initial reaction one of offence when I re-baptised you?

                          No real need to answer, we all know the answer.
                          cheers

                          Not really? I may even have slavic blood down the line, but as far as I know, for the last few hundred years at least, a part of my family is native to Aegean Macedonia (not far from an ancient Macedonian settlement), have been Hellenic speakers for millenniums, practice Hellenic culture, ethos and can read the ancient Macedonian inscriptions at the local museum.

                          If my language was Slavic, culture and ancestry was predominately Slavic, I would not have an issue with identifying as "Slavic". Didn't Yugoslavia mean "land of the Slavs" or similar?

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                          • Tomche Makedonche
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1123

                            #14
                            Yes, we are well aware Greeks profoundly prefer that Macedonians weren't Macedonian
                            “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Poligiros View Post
                              Not really?
                              You're not sure?
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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