Dispilio Pictures Kostur - Kastoria

[Voltron]

Wanted to share these pictures with you guys. Have you ever heard of this settlement ?

The site appears to have been occupied over a long period, from the final stages of the Middle Neolithic (5600-5000 BC) to the Final Neolithic (3000 BC). A number of items were found, including ceramics, wooden structural elements, seeds, bones, figurines, personal ornaments, flutes (one of them dating back to the 6th millennium BCE, the oldest ever found in Europe) and what appears to be the most significant finding, the inscribed Dispilio Tablet.








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[Voltron]

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[Voltron]

Most important finding was the Dispilio Tablet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispilio_Tablet

[George S.]

What sort of writing is it voltron??Don't tell me it's greek it's like3000years before the greeks.So your govt can't BS & say it's greek.

[Risto the Great]

Thanks Voltron. Never heard of this. Looks interesting and the houses look just the same as ones I have seen in the Republic (somewhere) when they were described as one of the oldest forms of housing settlements.

[Soldier of Macedon]

I have heard of it and read about it, and it has been previously discussed on the forum, although it hasn't had a specific thread dedicated to the topic. This appears to be the earliest form of a writing system that can be identified on Macedonian territory, dating back to approx. 7,000 years.

I am not sure if any serious attempts have been made to decipher the text and letters, but if they can decipher Linear B then this should also be possible. They all seem to stem from hieroglyphic scripts, but even that suggestion warrants further investigation.

[GStojanov]

Thank you Votron,

I was trying to get some info about this site for quite some time. The house in the lake looks almost identical to the fishing huts built to the very present day on Dojran lake (just north of Kukush, on the borderline).

http://www.dojran.com/

The script is similar to the stone carved scripts of Macedonia of that period, and with Vincha script of slighty later date.

Very interesing find. I cannot wait to see how will Greek archeologists and paleolinguists interpret the script.

[Niko777]

The Macedonian name of Dispilio is Dupjak

[George S.]

The djoran lake isn't that prehistoric??

[Pelister]

I think its strange that something like this should appear at this stage in its conquest of this territory. It would be interesting to find out when it was discovered, and by whom. Its 'appearance' corresponds too closely to other neolithic inscriptions found in the region, by Macedonians and others. It is virtually impossible that something that old would be preserved as well as it has in wood. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a forgery or some nationalist stunt by the New Greeks, given their current policies and practices of conquest, are highly extreme. I mean, there are literally thousands of inscriptions that are 'off limits' to the world in the vaults in Athens, there are dozens of 'Thracian' tombs found in northern Greece, and 'closed' to the world. I don't think something like this would be made 'public' unless it had some benefit or advantage to the myths and lies of the invaders.

[julie]

How were these artifacts preserved for 10,000 years, will Greece allow independent archaeologists and historians to peruse and verify these findings as legitimate ? It all errs on the side of incredulous .

[Soldier of Macedon]

We don't really need Greece for much in this regard. We have the script that they used in this Macedonian region, now what is required is an in-depth analysis and comparison with other similar scripts.

[Voltron]

Thank you Votron,

I was trying to get some info about this site for quite some time. The house in the lake looks almost identical to the fishing huts built to the very present day on Dojran lake (just north of Kukush, on the borderline).

http://www.dojran.com/

The script is similar to the stone carved scripts of Macedonia of that period, and with Vincha script of slighty later date.

Very interesing find. I cannot wait to see how will Greek archeologists and paleolinguists interpret the script.

No Problem GStojanov,

I liked your link as well. Here is something you can read regarding when it was discovered and some other information. The place is stunning though, I happened to go in the early morning in Fall. Kastoria is notorious for fog, reminded me of Ioannina Epirus. Anyway, when I went there it had a dense fog and all of a sudden you see this marshland with houses. It was really surreal and pretty breathtaking. One of the better sites I saw over there.

http://dispilio.web.auth.gr/

[Voltron]

How were these artifacts preserved for 10,000 years, will Greece allow independent archaeologists and historians to peruse and verify these findings as legitimate ? It all errs on the side of incredulous .

I dont thnk thats how they found the houses Julie. Im sure they reconstructed it with the best possible way. But going that far back there is only so much one can do.

Other findings however are infact intact though. Thats why it really is a remarkable place.

I also dont think this site can be used to antagonize each other. It goes to far in the past for either side to capitalize on it. If anything we should be happy that its one of Europes oldest settlement if not the oldest.