Epirot, I took the liberty of creating the thread - SoM.
Hello SoM,
I think it would be better to reform again the title and direction of this thread from 'Early foreign influences...in Paleo-Balkan communities' to 'Early Illyrian, Thracian and Macedonian influence to Hellas'.
We are acquainted already with the fact that Hellenic traces on both Illyria, Macedon, Thrace and Scythia are product of great colonial expansion of Greeks from VIII B.C onwards. But in other hand, we know little for the influence of Illyrians, Thracians, Phrygians in what became as Hellas.
I am so nervous that I did not put in my bookmark a meaningful citation I found in an online book that says approximately as following: 'Macedonians were civilized much earlier than Greeks'. In my opinion, this is not groundless, because Hellenes owed not only their origin but even many of their traditions and achievements to Illyrians, Thracians, Macedonians and Phrygians. I am tired of hearing again and again the 'Hellenic influence', Hellenic 'advantages' to the 'backward peoples', Greek cultural 'superiority' to the 'primitive' less civilized barbarians and similar crap.
Why everyone deliberately avoid from searching the other side of coin: Of what degree was the influence of Illyrians, Thracians and Macedonians given to the Greeks?
I am sure that we need just a simple analysis to observe that the above-mentioned people not only influenced Greece for very beginning but a number of 'Greek' achievements are in fact Illyrian, Macedonian and Thracian.
Hello SoM,
I think it would be better to reform again the title and direction of this thread from 'Early foreign influences...in Paleo-Balkan communities' to 'Early Illyrian, Thracian and Macedonian influence to Hellas'.
We are acquainted already with the fact that Hellenic traces on both Illyria, Macedon, Thrace and Scythia are product of great colonial expansion of Greeks from VIII B.C onwards. But in other hand, we know little for the influence of Illyrians, Thracians, Phrygians in what became as Hellas.
I am so nervous that I did not put in my bookmark a meaningful citation I found in an online book that says approximately as following: 'Macedonians were civilized much earlier than Greeks'. In my opinion, this is not groundless, because Hellenes owed not only their origin but even many of their traditions and achievements to Illyrians, Thracians, Macedonians and Phrygians. I am tired of hearing again and again the 'Hellenic influence', Hellenic 'advantages' to the 'backward peoples', Greek cultural 'superiority' to the 'primitive' less civilized barbarians and similar crap.
Why everyone deliberately avoid from searching the other side of coin: Of what degree was the influence of Illyrians, Thracians and Macedonians given to the Greeks?
I am sure that we need just a simple analysis to observe that the above-mentioned people not only influenced Greece for very beginning but a number of 'Greek' achievements are in fact Illyrian, Macedonian and Thracian.
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