Is Macedonia safe? What can Gruevski do.

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  • Pelister
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2742

    Is Macedonia safe? What can Gruevski do.

    Just want to get your opinion on some of the policies of the Gruevski government, such as the more babies program ...etc

    What do you think of them?
  • Delodephius
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 736

    #2
    More babies is a good idea. Eastern Europe has a very low birthrate, except for the Albanians.
    अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
    उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
    This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
    But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.

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    • Pelister
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2742

      #3
      I would like to see Macedonian villages around the Debar region beefed up, developed ...etc.

      Some of them have fallen into ruin, and in some cases less than a hundred Macedonians now live there, yet they are strategically of very high value to the Macedonian nation.

      Given the very small population of this region, increasing the numbers of Macedonians to this area, would change the demographics of Western Macedonia entirely.

      That area of the map would appear on demographic charts as predominantly Macedonian, whereas now its pecariously balanced between Macedonians, Turks and Albanians.

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      • Jankovska
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1774

        #4
        Macedonia needs to be economically strong to be able to do this. If the Government had money to sponsor people to return there or at least to sponsor people to move in Western Macedonia than it can be done, however Western Macedonia is poor as well as Eastern but people feel more at ease in Eastern Macedonia because there is no Albanians there.

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        • Giorikas
          Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 316

          #5
          Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
          Macedonia needs to be economically strong to be able to do this. If the Government had money to sponsor people to return there or at least to sponsor people to move in Western Macedonia than it can be done, however Western Macedonia is poor as well as Eastern but people feel more at ease in Eastern Macedonia because there is no Albanians there.
          Would it be a good idea to re-settle the millions of Macedonians from occupied Aegean Macedonia to these territories to keep at least a platform for further extension towards the occupied territories?

          I will look forward to your suggestions after my travels to Turkey from tomorrow to next week the 21st. Just mentioning my schedule so that no trigger happy administrator will give me an ultimatum for answering any message. I am for the time being looking forward to Risto the Great's answer to my repeated requests to further explain his claims, as I have done on his specific request when he asked me. I wilkl try to log i from distance though.

          Wishing my friends here a kali eudomada ( good week)

          Giorikas

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          • Traveller
            Banned
            • Sep 2008
            • 177

            #6
            Originally posted by Giorikas View Post
            Would it be a good idea to re-settle the millions of Macedonians from occupied Aegean Macedonia to these territories to keep at least a platform for further extension towards the occupied territories?
            I will look forward to your suggestions after my travels to Turkey from tomorrow to next week the 21st. Just mentioning my schedule so that no trigger happy administrator will give me an ultimatum for answering any message. I am for the time being looking forward to Risto the Great's answer to my repeated requests to further explain his claims, as I have done on his specific request when he asked me. I wilkl try to log i from distance though.

            Wishing my friends here a kali eudomada ( good week)

            Giorikas
            You are in kefia, right?

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            • Jankovska
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1774

              #7
              Originally posted by Giorikas View Post
              Would it be a good idea to re-settle the millions of Macedonians from occupied Aegean Macedonia to these territories to keep at least a platform for further extension towards the occupied territories?

              I will look forward to your suggestions after my travels to Turkey from tomorrow to next week the 21st. Just mentioning my schedule so that no trigger happy administrator will give me an ultimatum for answering any message. I am for the time being looking forward to Risto the Great's answer to my repeated requests to further explain his claims, as I have done on his specific request when he asked me. I wilkl try to log i from distance though.

              Wishing my friends here a kali eudomada ( good week)

              Giorikas
              Of course not, why should we move our Macedonians from Occupied Macedonia and give your gov a real reason to take their land and deny they ever existed. Our Macedonians in Egej are in the right place just their country is still occupied and they are still denied basic human rights. That is the problem.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #8
                Originally posted by Giorikas View Post
                Would it be a good idea to re-settle the millions of Macedonians from occupied Aegean Macedonia to these territories to keep at least a platform for further extension towards the occupied territories?
                No, I don't think so.
                The Macedonians in Greece have been heavily indoctrinated just like the Albanians, Vlachs, Turks and others. No ... didn't one of your friends here admit to even the Polish being denied a cultural centre in Greece? Indeed a threat.

                Nah, just equal footings as sovereign nations is all we want.

                Just like you Giorikas, I was away for a few days. Not in Turkey. But away. I did respond to some of your assertions yesterday and note you are very light on facts whenever you state something. Is this because you do not come from the region of Macedonia in Greece? Surely you would know better if you came from there.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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