Greater Serbia

[Philosopher]

Vojislav Seselj was released from the Hague recently for health reasons, and from my understanding, is already advocating for a Greater Serbia.

The Serbian Radical Party, which he founded in 1991, advocates for a return of the Serbian Empire of the Middle Ages.



This includes Macedonia, and much of the Balkans, save for the Hellenic state. As I am sure some of you know, there is a local chapter of the Serbian Radical Party in Macedonia, in addition to local chapters in some other Balkan countries.

Should the presence of such a local chapter in Macedonia be worrisome?

Is there a growing movement in Macedonia in support of a united Balkan/Greater Serbian kingdom?

There is an element in Macedonia that longs for the old Tito days.

[Nikolaj]

There is an element in Macedonia that longs for the old Tito days.

If those days didn't continue after Tito's death, what makes it possible for it to restart now I would ask to them.

I don't see this happening at this point in time though.

[vicsinad]

Is there a growing movement in Macedonia in support of a united Balkan/Greater Serbian kingdom?

I see a United Balkan state and a Greater Serbian state as two different entities. I don't understand why you combined the two in one statement? Still, both are highly unlikely and probably undesirable by most Balkan people and even many (if not most) Serbs. (There have been "uniting the Balkan people" sentiments, mainly as a response to certain economic realities, and to get past the horrors of the '90s, but nothing significant as a movement and nowhere near incorporating the entirety of the Balkans). I've heard Macedonians more generally talk about the "good old days" of Yugoslavia -- then again, those are from Macedonians who left Yugoslavia for the Diaspora. When I went to Macedonia, I saw a lot of friendly attitudes toward Serbs and Bulgarians...but never heard anything of reuniting.

Specifically regarding Macedonia, I don't think many Serbs have dropped the "Macedonians are Serbians' little brothers attitude;" however, I think there isn't any legitimate movement or desire to incorporate Macedonia into Serbia. Also, I think many Macedonians see themselves aligned with Serbs because of the Albanian problems. If there was no common Albanian enemy/threat, I don't think many Macedonians would feel as close to Serbs as they do.

On another note, I don't think many people in the Balkans (or I haven't really read anything suggesting) that they're willing to support any sort of "kingdom." At least I hope not.

[vicsinad]

Serbian leaders dismiss Vojislav Seselj threats

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“I refuse to allow anyone to drag us into the political mud or into the past, no matter who it is, Seselj or anyone from the Serbian Radical Party,” Stefanovic said.

Foreign minister Ivica Dacic said meanwhile that Seselj’s ideas of a ‘Greater Serbia’ encompassing parts of Croatia and Bosnia were now history.

“In the 21st century, the idea that Split, Zagreb or Dubrovnik are part of Serbia cannot have serious political support,” Dacic told public broadcaster RTS.

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/175464/serbian-leaders-dismiss-vojislav-seselj-threats.html

[DedoAleko]

"The Serbian Orthodox Church is one of the oldest Slavic Orthodox churches. Autocephalous received in the 13th century, and restored in 1879. Its jurisdiction extends to much of Southeastern Europe, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia ..." Says the Russian church the 12th Nov.2014

izvor: http://dnevnik.mk/default.asp?ItemID...B0E687CF27F428

[Volokin]

Yeah and such territorial gains will have to require wars of some regard, and given that they have Euro aspirations, I can't see that being a likely situation to pursue in the future.

[Risto the Great]

"The Serbian Orthodox Church is one of the oldest Slavic Orthodox churches. Autocephalous received in the 13th century, and restored in 1879. Its jurisdiction extends to much of Southeastern Europe, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia ..." Says the Russian church the 12th Nov.2014

izvor: http://dnevnik.mk/default.asp?ItemID...B0E687CF27F428

And when Macedonians aren't kissing Serb ass, they kiss Russian ass. No matter what rubbish they say and do.

[Брсјак]

"The Serbian Orthodox Church is one of the oldest Slavic Orthodox churches. Autocephalous received in the 13th century, and restored in 1879. Its jurisdiction extends to much of Southeastern Europe, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia ..." Says the Russian church the 12th Nov.2014

izvor: http://dnevnik.mk/default.asp?ItemID...B0E687CF27F428

they received 'Autocephalous' by our Ohrid Macedonian church (not sure of the rank) back in the 13th century and now they deny ours .. Anti- campaigns has been really offensive lately. Things like this really piss me off

[Брсјак]

There is an element in Macedonia that longs for the old Tito days.

that generation is dead now and this is different than that

[Risto the Great]

And when Macedonians aren't kissing Serb ass, they kiss Russian ass. No matter what rubbish they say and do.

By the way Dedo, please don't think I was referring to you when I said that.

[Redsun]

How could Serbia possibly manage this?

[Philosopher]

I see a United Balkan state and a Greater Serbian state as two different entities. I don't understand why you combined the two in one statement?

I understand your point.

However, the reason I combined them is because I do not believe (in principle) they are two different entities. Under the old Yugoslavia, for example, it was Serbia who dominated. Under a new Balkan political partnership, Serbia is likely to dominate. So while ostensibly a Greater Serbia is different than a Balkan Union, I still see Serbia as the dominant player in such a union.

[Philosopher]

that generation is dead now and this is different than that

Not so. I distinctly recall my first cousin's wife (who is now probably in early forties) heap praise on Tito and romanticized Tito while she was in early thirties.

There is an element, regardless of how minute.

[Брсјак]

Not so. I distinctly recall my first cousin's wife (who is now probably in early forties) heap praise on Tito and romanticized Tito while she was in early thirties.

There is an element, regardless of how minute.

i find Russians' statement more worrisome and more annoying than this. There aren't any that praise him in public and the last time someone did was ridiculed and Serbia is in deep shit and in no position to do the same thing they did after the wwII, the situation is completely different. They have deliberately released him to create chaos.

[Stojacanec]

Serbia couldn't even retain Kosovo while part of Serbia. They committed atrocities in Bosnia to no avail.

I therefore can't see how a greater Serbia is possible.

Do Macedonians have an unhealthy fascination with Serbian music and singers, I don't know?

They like our music and foods and we theirs. Its a two way street - maybe lob sided but still goes two ways.