Alarming political precursors in ROM

[momce]

Yes, "resource curse". Of course they also have 1 billion Chinese slave labourers now. I think for the pseudo-Islamic threat one should look at the Anglo-Saudi connection also "Operation Cyclone". Most of globalist foreign policy is centred on maintaining contro of the Persian Gulf in order to feed the petrodollar speculative system, so whenever they look at a region that is the reference point for almost everything. So yes "Islamic" encroachment in the Balkans because they need Saudi investors to fund the Western economy basically. Think about this "Islamic threat" doesnt make sense since they supported Islamic forces in the Balkans(including Macedonia), the Transcaucasus(Chechnya etc) and the Islamic overthrow of regimes in Libya and Syria etc. Something very different is going on there.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

I don't know if the Balkan will be the spark

any, country which has fresh voda is a risk, major concern and shortage

[momce]

I don't know if the Balkan will be the spark they need this time(like WWI) probably the Middle East or the area from the Balkan to the Middle East for the globalists. Should pick up a copy of Brezinskis "Grand Chessboard" this is basically what they are driving towards "global percolating violence" with corporate wealth centres safe behind the front lines. Could sum it up basically as the petrodollar and the entire system built around it. See how they attack Libya, Iraq etc they are oil producers and dont use the dollar they have bad relations with Russia, Venezuela also major oil producers. They are obviously against new oil and financial bourses. Probably next they will have bad relations with other major food producers like Brazil etc. Basically they will act to destroy anything that resists or opposes their world trading system because its their bread and butter and they get very rich off it as a social class. Food-chain conflict basically. Now if we look at Macedonia its very dangerous because it lays astride global wealth reservoirs that global predators want to control and loot and pillage basically. Eventually it may come down to what and who or how many people you want to save from all this as they are too powerful, vicious and nasty as a power elite.

[George S.]

haven't you guys heard macedonia is the powderkeg of the balkans.It is waiting to be ignited.

[momce]

Probably and things are just going to get more violent unfortunately too many contradictions are at play. Although a small nucleur device would be nice to have. There are examples of cooperation in the region the Strudzha commune and of course Tito's Yugoslavia etc some mass state based on the real needs of the masses of the area outside petty nationalism and religion and other irrationalities, bourgeois markets etc. That is part of the divide and conquer. Yes I think its better we all settle our differences and create a united Balkan Front against both West and East but still trying to figure out who would be the sugardaddy or else we are probably all doomed to thousand years of combined West-neo-Ottoman domination. But as per my earlier comment it may be too late and global forces already have the cash equivalent of strategic bombing over everyone.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

its too late

yes 100% correct

[momce]

Yes thats my vibe too and my instincts usually dont fail me. Problem is maybe its too late and things are very dangerous.

[Gocka]

This seems like the slow encroachment of neo-Ottoman islamic forces in the Balkan. Odd most of this stuff is supported by the Anglo-Islamic axis over continental Europe. Biggest mistake was allowing NATO into Macedonia. We seem to forget that all these issues are overridden by the massive power of global corporate capitalism and its ability to destroy, recylcle and fabricate new realities at will and make us all into human waste material. Maybe its better we all settle our differences in the region and prepare for the real onslaught from both West and East.

Yes I get a similar vibe. I know we have gotten close with turkey out of our hate for greece but one has to remember who our mortal enemy was only 100 years ago. Some of our great grand parents lived during Turkish rule and it wasn't pretty. There is a huge influx of Islamic influence in the Balkans in the last decade and I fear I truly fear that the islamists see the Balkans as the route to Europe. We have fought over nationalism in the last century and I think the next will be over religion, maybe not religion per se but the after effects of religious influence. we all know well what islamization brings and how opposed it is to our cultural beliefs. What is most shocking is the west's blind eye to this. Not only in the Balkans but their own countries. One has to wonder is the obvious being ignored because of some higher moneyed interest or are westerns really that ignorant or accepting?

[momce]

This seems like the slow encroachment of neo-Ottoman islamic forces in the Balkan. Odd most of this stuff is supported by the Anglo-Islamic axis over continental Europe. Biggest mistake was allowing NATO into Macedonia. We seem to forget that all these issues are overridden by the massive power of global corporate capitalism and its ability to destroy, recylcle and fabricate new realities at will and make us all into human waste material. Maybe its better we all settle our differences in the region and prepare for the real onslaught from both West and East.

[George S.]

looks like his mind is made up as he is allready persuaded by either bulgarians etc & others who are our real enemies.So this guy doesn't know not only the whole picture about macedonia but the real picture of macedonia.My comment is to stay away frm people like that who have been brainwashed by propaganda.He has become a puppet for their pr.

[Gocka]

How much faith should we put into his articles if his views are biased & twisted in a particular way.He doesn't have first hand evidence & it must be fed by his contacts.What kind of view did you expect with views like that he isn't pro macedonian.

George, its not that I expect anything, simply reading his articles will tell you more then you need to know in order to make a decision about his prejudices.

You have to look at the big picture, the 21st century is all about PR. When you get bad PR you need to be concerned. Then you need ask why are you getting bad PR. In this case the PR is laden with lies and half truths with a clear agenda. Then you need to ask in whose interest is this bad PR.

What I'm getting at is, if you can identify all your adversaries and their intentions/motivations/interest's you will be much better equipped to prepare/defend/attack. PR is war, fought with words instead of guns, there are winners and losers and trust that PR wars can be just as dangerous and damaging as real war.

In this case the intentions are clear (Make ROM look unstable / make Gruevski look like a dictator instead of a sellout which he probably is/ portray Macedonians as the aggressors / cast a negative light on ROM overall)

The motivation is also easy to see, although not as clear as his intention. The motivation (He clearly shares some kind of bond with bulgaria and Qatar / has a soft spot for Muslims / dislikes oppressive regimes.

Now as to whose interest is it in. He seems to be much more Muslim biased then bulgarian biased but he has a special dislike for Macedonians. He has not once criticized or shown contempt for the treatment of Muslims in other Balkan countries but for some reason singles ROM out with passion.

Albanians and Greeks despise us, Bulgarians and Serbs look down on us. He sounds like an albanian but then why the bulgarian and Qatar flags.

There are two main reasons I am concerned.

1- the Qatar connection, We know Qatar is funding Balkan Islamist but this was more out of love for Islam then hate against us. If the Qatar connection turns into something more then just pro Islam that is worrying because that is a whole new player in the game and a wealthy one at that who can finance almost anything. Funding Islamist is bad enough but having some kind of disdain for us or our nation is much worse

2- PR game, this is just one journalist but the site ground report that he writes for seems to have some clout lately. All of this guys articles were on the top search results for Macedonia/Balkan/etcon Google news for days. So his articles are getting prime placement which is not good because I have not seen anything to counter it.

We must be more vigilant and see things coming earlier so we can at least attempt to deal with them. We don't want to get caught off guard like the Serbs and wake up one day with the world labeling us genocidal monsters and wondering what happened. These things happen slower then you think and get built up before they go to the masses.

[George S.]

How much faith should we put into his articles if his views are biased & twisted in a particular way.He doesn't have first hand evidence & it must be fed by his contacts.What kind of view did you expect with views like that he isn't pro macedonian.

[Gocka]

So I did some digging to find out more about this website groundreport.com where a lot of negative articles originate about ROM particularly about Gruevski. I assumed at first it must be sdsm because every article seemed to take a negative spin on Gruevski no matter what; now I'm not so sure. This is what I found:

The website has world news but a lot of focus seems to be on the middle east.

The reporters appear to be local reporters that write for this site.

Most of the reporters seem to have muslim/middle eastern names

The reporter that writes about ROM exclusively is Salam Burdu, right away I thought albaian from the balkans, but it seems he is not.

Salam Burdu has a profile on google+ where he states to be the CEO of Council for Salvation, a quote from his profile "CEO of the organization 'Council for Salvation". Organization which is targeting on wipe out the non humanic regimes over the world."

He is not born in the west because the quote is grammatically incorrect and is said in a way to indicate his first language can not be English.

You do not even have to look that far into it, in fact plastered as the background of his profile is 2 flags, a bulgarian and a Qatari flag. Now I find this a little strange. I don't see the connection but he has lived in Sofia and Doha, including London, New York, Moscow, Istanbul, and Terran. Again this is according to his profile. Sofia being the only Balkan city he has lived in but he currently lives in Doha (Qatar).

Clearly he is either bulgarian or Qatari or maybe half and half, he is clearly Muslim as well by the name.

In all his articles he is anti Macedonian anti Gruevski, seemingly pro sdsm or maybe by it is by default by being anti Gruevski. He does seem pro bulgarian and pro albanian. He seems neutral toward the rest of the Balkans.

He only started writing 2 months ago and the majority of his articles are split between ROM and bulgaria, with a majority to ROM.

All his articles try to portray Macedonia as in a state of crisis on the verge of war or collapse. He does have affection for bulgaria but is very pro Muslim, which I don't get, how you can be heavily pro Muslim and still very pro bulgarian since bulgarians don't exactly like their Muslim countrymen.

Most baffling is the Qatar connection I know the Albanians get a lot of funding from Qatar for Islamist groups and for building of mosques. I'm assuming the Muslims in Bulgaria must get the same but why such hate for ROM. We are the least oppressive to Muslims in the Balkans especially less than bulgaria.

The only angle I can come up with is that the guy has a fixation on "oppressive regimes" and has labeled Gruevski as such thus the negative spin on everything.

His profile https://plus.google.com/108984815621303154277
/about
Any thoughts?

[Gocka]

Yes. Interesting summary. Macedonia needs help urgently

But anyway, where do they get off talking about Macedonia's high unemployment rate when the cradle of democracy down south is only a few percentage points different! Sick of this stuff.

Clearly these articles coming out are attempts to destabilize the situation and either open the door for foreign intervention or cause dysfunction from within to keep people divided. What I can't put my finger on is who is bank rolling these negative articles, US, greece, bulgaria, albanians, sdsm? No matter who it is you must stop and worry just a bit when words like dictator, oppression, silencing are used in mass media. I don't like it at all.

As much as I dislike Gruevski he has united the majority of Macedonians to some degree. From what I can see there is a higher sense of nationalism and focus on history and culture that was not there before. He is surely not the answer to our problems but maybe by accident he is bringing about some sort of unity among us which is the first step that we need. Maybe that is why these types of articles are coming out? Certain groups are afraid that if we are unified that we may actually do something right for a change. Think about it, history is at the forefront out in the open like never before, and much more people in ROM actually care about our history, nowhere near the amount of people that should care but surely more than the past 2 decades. I truly think that all our opponents would much rather see sdsm in power rather than vmro.
Interesting and scary times for ROM, the next 5 years will decide the next 50 for ROM. Either we will come out stronger than ever or disappear never to return again.

[Risto the Great]

Summary:

We are being oppressed, restricted,

our journalists are slowly being replaced with only pro government cronies.

Shows are being taken off the air

We are becoming religious extremists

We are silencing farmers.

Fines for spitting or littering are being used to keep people quiet.

Wow my eyes have been opened quick send the US army to rectify the situation and restore democracy.

Yes. Interesting summary. Macedonia needs help urgently

But anyway, where do they get off talking about Macedonia's high unemployment rate when the cradle of democracy down south is only a few percentage points different! Sick of this stuff.