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  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    Moubarak Steps Down

    Mubarak's departure 'victory for people'
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    WORLD leaders have hailed the toppling of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak as an historic victory for people power, paving the way for democracy, amid scenes of jubilation.

    As Mr Mubarak's three-decade-long rule ended on Friday, a day after he enraged protesters by refusing to stand down, messages of congratulation to the Egyptian people flooded in.

    UN chief Ban Ki-moon said the "voice of the Egyptian people has been heard'', while in the first US reaction to the tumultuous events, Vice President Joe Biden spoke of an "historic day'' for Egyptians and a "pivotal moment'' in the Middle East.

    But Mr Biden also warned Mubarak's departure must lead to a negotiated path towards democracy, cautioning that "delicate and fateful'' days lie ahead.

    US President Barack Obama was to make a televised statement later on Friday, but Wall Street reacted to the news from Egypt almost immediately, rebounding from earlier slight losses to solid gains.



    French President Nicolas Sarkozy saluted Mr Mubarak's "courageous and necessary'' decision to step down, adding: "France calls on all Egyptians to continue their march towards liberty.''

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Mr Mubarak's departure marks an "historic change'' and she expects Egypt's future government "to continue to keep the peace in the Middle East, in that the agreements made with Israel are respected and Israel's security is guaranteed''.

    British Prime Minister David Cameron said that with Mubarak's departure Egypt now has a "really precious moment of opportunity to have a government that can bring the country together''.

    "Those who now run Egypt have a duty to reflect the wishes of the Egyptian people,'' Mr Cameron said.
    Russia however offered a more guarded reaction, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov expressing hope the power shift "will help the restoration of stability''.

    In Brussels, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton judged that the 82-year-old strongman had "listened to the voices of the Egyptian people'' who have staged more than two weeks of massive protests for his departure.

    Spain promised assistance and joined calls for speedy reforms in Egypt, while India urged the senior Egyptian military commanders handed power "to establish an open and democratic framework of governance''.

    South African President Jacob Zuma praised Mubarak for "having thought like a leader, to place the interests of Egypt above his own, and taken the correct decision to leave''.

    In Tunisia, whose own "Jasmine Revolution'' spurred on the Egyptian revolt, people danced in the street and blared their horns.

    "It's wonderful! Two dictators have fallen in less than a month,'' said 23-year-old student Nourredine, referring to January's ouster of Tunisian strongman Zine El Abidine Ben Ali

    Qatar called the power change a "positive and important step towards achieving the aspirations of the Egyptian people for democracy, reform, and a decent life'', according to a statement carried by the state news agency QNA.
    Reactions came from all quarters of the Islamic world.

    Iran described Egyptian protesters as having achieved a "great victory''.

    "The conquest by the will of the great Egyptian nation over the resistance and persistence of officials who were dependent on the world powers is a great victory,'' foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast told Iran's Arabic-language Al-Alam television.

    From the Gaza Strip, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri likewise praised the "the start of the victory of the Egyptian revolution'', and celebrations erupted across the territory.

    Turkey tapped the Internet that has powered the Egyptian revolt, with Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu twittering hopes that Mubarak's departure will produce a new "system'' meeting the demands of ordinary Egyptians.

    Meanwhile, Israel offered a more cautious reaction to Mubarak's departure, with a government official describing the moment as "too important to draw immediate conclusions about the outcome''.

    "We hope that the transition to democracy, for Egypt and for its neighbours, will be done smoothly,'' the official told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.

    But the official also stressed the need to preserve the 1979 peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, which was signed two years before Mubarak came to power.
    Last edited by George S.; 02-11-2011, 03:09 PM. Reason: ed
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV
  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    #2
    Egypt's army won't oppose 'popular will'

    EGYPT'S armed forces, which took power on Friday after the resignation of president Hosni Mubarak, will not oppose the "popular will'', a spokesman said in a televised address.

    The military said it will not "be an alternative to the popular legitimacy wanted by the people''.

    It also saluted Mubarak "for all he has given to the country in times of war and peace, and for his patriotism, which prioritised the higher interest of the nation''.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #3
      Switzerland freezes Mubarak assets


      THE Swiss government on Friday ordered a freeze on any assets belonging to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his entourage shortly after he was forced from office, the foreign ministry said.

      "The Federal Council (government) has decided to freeze any assets of the former Egyptian president and his entourage in Switzerland with immediate effect,'' the ministry said in a statement.

      It added that the three-year freeze was aimed at preventing any risk of embezzlement of Egyptian state property.
      Apart from any cash or investments in Swiss bank accounts, the order, which was published at 5:30pm (0330 AEDT Saturday) according to Swiss news agency ATS, also applies to the sale or transfer of any residential or commercial property.

      It was not immediately clear if any such assets had been located in Switzerland.

      The Swiss government also called on Egyptian authorities "to respond to the legitimate desire of the Egyptian people in a credible, participatory and transparent manner''.




      The Swiss ambassador in Egypt described the situation as people massed on the streets of Cairo as ``World Cup euphoria multiplied by 10'', ATS reported.

      Swiss authorities slapped a similar freeze on the assets of Tunisia's ex-president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali last month a few a days after he was ousted.

      That has resulted in the blockage of a sum in the "two-digit millions'' in Switzerland, officials said, pending legal action for its recovery by Tunisian authorities.




      Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...#ixzz1DgRfTmhK
      Last edited by George S.; 02-11-2011, 03:13 PM. Reason: edit
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • Dimko-piperkata
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1876

        #4
        that figures.

        all these "revolutions" in the near east are "made"....made for one reason, cause to get the iranian people to do the same !

        but ahmadinedchad must remain in office
        1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
        2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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        • Louis Riel
          Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 190

          #5
          Originally posted by Dimko-piperkata View Post
          that figures.

          all these "revolutions" in the near east are "made"....made for one reason, cause to get the iranian people to do the same !

          but ahmadinedchad must remain in office

          So the CIA is bringing down one of their allies in the hope that there might be similar results in Iran?)I dont think so Dimko.This poses a threat to all dictators in the middle east,whether theyre supported by the US or not.

          Personally,i think you're giving too much credit to the CIA....if only they were that competent.

          OPA!!!!!!!!!!
          YouTube - Scenes from Tahrir Square: The Revolution Victorious
          Last edited by Louis Riel; 02-11-2011, 03:41 PM.

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          • Dimko-piperkata
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1876

            #6
            Originally posted by Louis Riel View Post
            So the CIA is bringing down one of their allies in the hope that there might be similar results in Iran?)I dont think so Dimko.This poses a threat to all dictators in the middle east,whether theyre supported by the US or not.

            Personally,i think you're giving to much credit to the CIA....if only they were that competent.

            OPA!!!!!!!!!!
            YouTube - Scenes from Tahrir Square: The Revolution Victorious
            in the next week´s u will see that the pressure from "outside" will increase on ahmadinedchad...everywhere in the western dominated media u will hear the same provocation to the iranian folk, like "your muslim brothers in egypt, tunesia, etc where able to get rid of their dictator, why aren´t u able to follow them"

            ps
            i never said CIA
            1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
            2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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            • Louis Riel
              Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 190

              #7
              Originally posted by Dimko-piperkata View Post
              in the next week´s u will see that the pressure from "outside" will increase on ahmadinedchad...everywhere in the western dominated media u will hear the same provocation to the iranian folk, like "your muslim brothers in egypt, tunesia, etc where able to get rid of their dictator, why aren´t u able to follow them"
              For the CIA or western intelligence agencies to try and use this to their advantage is normal...that doesnt mean they are responsible....well,maybe they are but not in the way you're suggesting.

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              • Onur
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 2389

                #8
                From colonels to generals, all the high-ranking soldiers of Egyptian army has been financed, trained and educated by the USA. So, it would be safe to say that Egyptian army is under control of them for years.

                I am quite sure that army forced Moubarak to step down by the request of CIA. Army officials probably told him that he should step down if he wanna live and then he gone. Unfortunately, i think that only the public figure is going to change in Egypt and the new puppet will be put in charge by CIA. Egyptians should be very careful to prevent that but in reality, their chance for real democracy is quite slim because the existence of US controlled Egypt is the biggest insurance of Israel. If democracy comes to Egypt, then people starts to protest Israel for sure. Thats something inevitable.

                Btw, Iran is not Egypt. Whether we like sharia regime in Iran or not, USA fully lost the control of Iran after the radical islamist revolution. US literally has no ally inside Iran. There are about 20-25 million Azeri Turks in northern Iran(at Turkey`s border) and i am sure that most of them hates from Iran`s current regime since millions of them escaped to Turkey and Azerbaijan when islamists came but i am sure that they would never do what Kurds did in Iraq. They would never ally with USA if they invade Iran. I think there are about 3-4 million Kurds in Iran but they cant be any threat to them. Iran expels them all to Iraq in a day if USA starts military campaign.

                So, USA has no other chance than military campaign if they wanna change regime in Iran.

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #9
                  Onur When george w bush was in power he was saying how iran would be next after iraq.He was saying how he was going to nuke iran.We are still waiting on the nuke bit,if they did there would be a huge backlash against the us.You are right the cia is behind it all
                  who else would plot to overthrow the established government.Of course the us would like to get their hands on the iran oil.
                  Last edited by George S.; 02-11-2011, 06:18 PM. Reason: ed
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15661

                    #10
                    Interesting how it has been resolved to bypass the Egyptian constitution. And the macedonian sheep cannot seem to see past their noses when their country was handed to the ethnic albanians.
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Dimko-piperkata
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1876

                      #11
                      Originally posted by George S. View Post
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                      Of course the us would like to get their hands on the iran oil.
                      oil is surely not their intention
                      1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                      2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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                      • Onur
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2389

                        #12
                        Iran has quite a lot of oil sources and they also have one of world`s biggest natural gas resources. They are currently allied with China and Russia to lesser degree. So, if US invades Iran, they would not only get these energy fields but they will also cut all the ties between China and middle-east. Also, Turkey and China signed for a new project to revive ancient silk road between China and Europe and Chinese are even wanna fund most of the expenses and build super high-speed railways here. I am sure neocons in Pentagon thinking about how and when to occupy Iran 24/7 for years and destroy all these plans.
                        Last edited by Onur; 02-11-2011, 09:57 PM.

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                        • DirtyCodingHabitz
                          Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 835

                          #13
                          If Ron Paul ends up winning in 2012, there won't be any wars.

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            #14
                            DP either the oil or protecting their friends the isralites.
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Vangelovski
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 8534

                              #15
                              The Egyptian people have just overthrown a murderous tyrant and some on this forum deny them this most fundamental right by making up ridiculous international conspiracy theories about it being "arranged" by the Americans (who have every reason to support Mubarak as they have done for 30 years, along with his ideological predecessors Sadat and Nasser) for the supposed purpose of repeating such a revolution in Iran.

                              Do any of those posters actually have the slightest understanding of the specific circumstances in Egypt, or do you base your ideas on delusional paranoia? Perhaps you would do well to live under the same conditions as the Egyptians did and then have a good think about whether it was the people who grew tired of oppression or some uber secret American agenda that overthrew Mubarak.

                              The Macedonians, rather than waiting for some foreign "saviour" (read sugar daddy), or in some cases fearing one, would do well to learn some lessons from these and other peacefull revolutions. Primarily, the necessity of a moral revolution, or in other words, changing the mindset of the people as a precursor to liberation.
                              Last edited by Vangelovski; 02-12-2011, 07:32 AM.
                              If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                              The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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