UK government joined forces with US to overcome name row between Greece and Macedonia

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  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    UK government joined forces with US to overcome name row between Greece and Macedonia

    UK government joined forces with US to overcome name row between Greece and Macedonia: Wikileaks

    London, 5 February 2011 (MIA) - The British government has been engaging and will continue to engage with senior Greek leadership to encourage Athens to be more flexible in its position on the Macedonia name issue, Wikileaks reveals as it releases details from a confidential cable sent by the US embassy in London to Washington in April 2008, which have been published on the website of "Daily Telegraph".

    Citing a discussion with ex-Foreign Office official Adam Bye responsible for Balkan countries, the cable says that the British Ambassador to Greece had met with Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis on April 14 where he noticed "a little improvement of Greece's position" in terms of the usual explanation that "Skopje refuses to be flexible and that Greece has worked as hard as it could within the UN mediating process," MIA's correspondent reports from London.

    At the meeting, Bakoyannis also added that progress was unlikely before the June 1 early elections in Macedonia.

    According to British diplomat Bye, who is quoted in the US cable, the government in London was engaged with the US administration to find a way out of the "Greece-Macedonia impasse" and its impact on the NATO membership, the Balkan stability and in the longer term, EU unity.

    Talking to the US diplomat who sent the cable, the British official said London would continue supporting US efforts to remove the Greek blockade on Macedonia's accession to NATO and that UK would lobby other EU members to exert influence on Athens.

    "UK shares the US desire that this issue be resolved within the next few weeks, but it is more likely to require a 'sustained push' at least until the Macedonian elections on June 1," Adam Bye has said.

    Furthermore, he confirmed that ruling and opposition parties had been urged not to politicize the name issue or appeal to nationalistic instincts to gain support during the election campaign.

    A separate document, titled "NATO, Macedonia, Invitation: UK Efforts Fail to Move Athens", sent by the US embassy in London on 4 Feb. 2008, unveils a statement by the Foreign Office political director Mark Lyall Grant that high-level UK intervention with Greece, including an appeal from FM David Miliband to his Greek counterpart Dora Bakoyannis at an EU meeting, had failed to shift Athens off its hard-line position.

    Lyall Grant discussed the matter also with then US assistant state secretary Daniel Fried.

    The UK's view is that now that Macedonia has accepted a compromise name proposed by UN envoy (Matthew) Nimetz, maximum pressure must be brought to bear on the Greeks, reads the document.

    Lyall Grant said it was unclear whether Greece was using the name issue to block any Macedonian accession to either EU or NATO, or whether a modifier currently unacceptable to Skopje - such as "Upper Macedonia" or "Northern Macedonia" - would mollify the hard-liners in Athens. According to Grant, it would likely require head-of-government level intervention at the Bucharest NATO summit to move the issue. He also noted that Paris could be problematic, given ongoing French-Greek military contract negotiations.

    In the document released by Wikileaks, it is stated that UK will resume efforts to settle the issue in coordination with the US and other like-minded allies. ba/fd/17:08
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  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8534

    #2
    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    The UK's view is that now that Macedonia has accepted a compromise name proposed by UN envoy (Matthew) Nimetz, maximum pressure must be brought to bear on the Greeks, reads the document.
    SoM,

    This refers to "Republic of Macedonia (Skopje)", which Gruevski accepted prior to the Bucharest Conference in 2008.

    The articles I provided in the other thread also confirm this.
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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    • Volk
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 894

      #3
      I am not sure if it was (skopje) shameful act regardless, which has not been denied.

      The condition was; it would be taken to referendum if Macedonia was accepted in NATO. Not as clear cut as you make out.
      Makedonija vo Srce

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      • Vangelovski
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 8534

        #4
        Originally posted by Volk View Post
        I am not sure if it was (skopje) shameful act regardless, which has not been denied.

        The condition was; it would be taken to referendum if Macedonia was accepted in NATO. Not as clear cut as you make out.
        Volk,

        It was "Republic of Macedonia (Skopje)". How can it be denied when it is on the public record?

        Have you completely forgotten the lengthy discussions around the problems of holding a referendum? This is not even a matter for discussion, let alone a referendum. Holding a referendum only "legitimises" the treason and the violation of our natural rights even further.

        Distorted facts, a lack of knowledge in relation to fundamental principles that govern human relations and incoherent thinking does not help anyone.
        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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