Vikings Possibly Carried Native Americans to Europe more than 1,000 years ago

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  • Onur
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    • Apr 2010
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    Vikings Possibly Carried Native Americans to Europe more than 1,000 years ago

    Looks like we can finally explain Bjork!



    Vikings Possibly Carried Native American to Europe

    The first Native American to arrive in Europe may have been a woman brought to Iceland by the Vikings more than 1,000 years ago, a study by Spanish and Icelandic researchers suggests.

    The findings boost widely-accepted theories, based on Icelandic medieval texts and a reputed Viking settlement in Newfoundland in Canada, that the Vikings reached the American continent several centuries before Christopher Columbus traveled to the "New World."

    Spain's CSIC scientific research institute said genetic analysis of around 80 people from a total of four families in Iceland showed they possess a type of DNA normally only found in Native Americans or East Asians.

    "It was thought at first that (the DNA) came from recently established Asian families in Iceland," CSIC researcher Carles Lalueza-Fox was quoted as saying in a statement by the institute. "But when family genealogy was studied, it was discovered that the four families were descended from ancestors who lived between 1710 and 1740 from the same region of southern Iceland."

    The lineage found, named C1e, is also mitochondrial, which means that the genes were introduced into Iceland by a woman.

    "As the island was virtually isolated from the 10th century, the most likely hypothesis is that these genes corresponded to an Amerindian woman who was brought from America by the Vikings around the year 1000," said Lalueza-Fox.

    He said the research team hopes to find more instances of the same Native American DNA in Iceland's population, starting in the same region in the south of the country near the massive Vatnajokull glacier.

    The report, by scientists from the CSIC and the University of Iceland, was also published in the latest edition of the American Journal of Physical Anthropology.

    The journal said 75 to 80 percent of contemporary Icelanders can trace their lineage to Scandinavia and the rest to Scotland and Ireland.

    But the C1e lineage is "one of a handful that was involved in the settlement of the Americas around 14,000 years ago.

    "Contrary to an initial assumption that this lineage was a recent arrival (in Iceland), preliminary genealogical analyses revealed that the C1 lineage was present in the Icelandic mitochondrial DNA pool at least 300 years ago" said the journal. "This raised the intriguing possibility that the Icelandic C1 lineage could be traced to Viking voyages to the Americas that commenced in the 10th century."

    Nov 17, 2010

    http://news.discovery.com/archaeolog...can-woman.html

    So, this can be a proof for the Vikings was going to America more than 500 years earlier than Columbus and whats more interesting is, it looks like Vikings was bringing native American women to the Europe with them. In the article, it says that they found 80 women in Iceland with native American dna. So this means that if they can found 80 women in 2010, then there was 100s of native Americans in Iceland ~1000 years ago

    I remember that when i watch a documentary about ancient Egyptian mysteries, it`s been said that they found traces of cocaine(or nicotine, don't remember exactly) in some ancient Egyptian mummies and it`s a mystery how come ancient Egyptians could get cocaine from Americas 1000s of years b4 Columbus supposedly discovered it as we know today.
    Last edited by Onur; 11-18-2010, 08:11 PM.
  • Risto the Great
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    I don't think anything will ever explain Bjork !
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    • Soldier of Macedon
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      • Sep 2008
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      #3
      I have heard of a theory that people from Europe migrated to the Americas before the indigenous Americans, based on the similarity of certain tools. I didn't find it too plausible but haven't really researched the topic. The above seems interesting.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • slovenec zrinski
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        • Sep 2008
        • 385

        #4
        As the island was virtually isolated from the 10th century, the most likely hypothesis is that these genes corresponded to an Amerindian woman who was brought from America by the Vikings around the year 1000," said Lalueza-Fox.
        So this means that if they can found 80 women in 2010, then there was 100s of native Americans in Iceland ~1000 years ago
        They have found traces of viking settlements in North America, but this is yet another proof that they were there. But as they say in the article, if you read it well enough ,they talk about one indian woman, not 100´s

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        • Onur
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          • Apr 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by slovenec zrinski View Post
          if you read it well enough ,they talk about one indian woman, not 100´s
          It says that they have found about ~80 people so far from a total of 4 family who possess Native American DNA and i thought like if they could find 80 people now, then Vikings might bring ~100s of Native Americans to the Iceland.

          Spain's CSIC scientific research institute said genetic analysis of around 80 people from a total of four families in Iceland showed they possess a type of DNA normally only found in Native Americans

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          • Mastika
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            • Feb 2010
            • 503

            #6
            Originally posted by Onur View Post
            So, this can be a proof for the Vikings was going to America more than 500 years earlier than Columbus and whats more interesting is, it looks like Vikings was bringing native American women to the Europe with them. In the article, it says that they found 80 women in Iceland with native American dna. So this means that if they can found 80 women in 2010, then there was 100s of native Americans in Iceland ~1000 years ago
            I thought that it was already widely established that the Vikings reached North America during the pinnacle of their civilisation.

            As for this supposed American Indian connection, I can think of a few other possibilities. Could the Vikings have interbred with some natives on Newfoundland, and upon returning to Greenland spread this gene, which made its way to Iceland?
            Is it possible for the native Greenlander Inuits to have this strand of DNA? Could the Viking colonists on Greenland 1000-800 years ago interbred with the Iniuts and then passed the DNA strain on to the Icelanders?
            Could it be from interbreeding with Amerindian people's after 1492? There were Scandinavian attempts at the colonisation of the Americas (Sweden and Denmark), could a child of mixed European/Amerindian descent have settled in Iceland and passed the gene on to her descendants?

            It really is a very interesting story.

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            • slovenec zrinski
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              • Sep 2008
              • 385

              #7
              Yes I see now, when I myself read it well enough that you can interpret it in many ways.
              I think the Icelanders are one of the most genetically mapped people in the world. I wonder if they have looked for this marker in the other tests?

              I do think it is established since there are traces of settlements. The vikings even had a name of their own for indians, they were called "skrälingar"..I think it could be loosely translated into "noisemakers", if memory serves me right.

              The swedish attempt at colonisation was in the 17th century in Delaware. It only lasted for some years before it was taken over by the Dutch.

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