Fouere apologises for use of "state" instead of "Macedonian" language in EC report

[Risto the Great]

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n234973

Skopje. Euro-ambassador Erwan Fouere apologised Wednesday in the Parliament for the misunderstanding due to the use of term "state" instead of "Macedonian" language in the EC Progress Report, the Macedonian Information Agency (MIA) reports.
MPs voiced remarks to Fouere during today's presentation of the document, stressing that such conduct by Brussels is discriminating and offensive for citizens, putting Greece in a better negotiating position.
"With regards to the language, which is addressed as state language, it was put to my attention by the President. We apologise for any misunderstanding. I want to assure you there is absolutely no change of the Brussels policy. If they ask me what is the country's language, I will say Macedonian language. I believe this is a pure misunderstanding. We take note of UN guidelines when it comes to this issue. Brussels is completely briefed on the sensitivity of this issue, since Brussels is the place where this report is compiled", said Fouere.
According to him, EU is not involved in altering the people's identity, since this is in the framework of its values.
"Identity is not something you can negotiate, it is something sacred for every individual and nation, and it should not be abused for partisan political interests", added Fouere.
President Gjorge Ivanov called on Euro-ambassador Erwan Fouere to provide clarifications why the European Commission Progress Report does not use term "Macedonian".

What do you mean by a pure misunderstanding Fouere?

How do you reconcile your appreciation of "identity" with the actions of the EU?

[julie]

misunderstanding ? will he abide by the bullshit when he is safely on his own turf again ? Or will he make a stand for macedonia ?

[Daskalot]

That was not a mistake. It was a way to undermine our identity. If we had not made an official complaint via our President, this would have been the new norm ie the official language of the Republic of Macedonia is the "state language".

[Prolet]

Indeed Daskale

This was purposely done, they mentioned Hrvatski on the Croatian Izvestaj over 70 times why should we be any different?

I think a more radical approach is needed, you have to fight fire with fire no more walking on egg shells.

[Risto the Great]

Prolet, well I do declare ... you seem to be sounding far more aggressive lately.
Are you fed up mate?

I know I certainly am and I am losing patience with anything resembling diplomacy when we continue to be treated like rubbish. Having said that I have far more disrespect for Macedonians than anyone else. We bring it upon ourselves if we allow any sign of acceptance of being less important to continue.

[Vangelovski]

Having said that I have far more disrespect for Macedonians than anyone else. We bring it upon ourselves if we allow any sign of acceptance of being less important to continue.

We only have ourselves to blame - we elect our politicians and we allow organisations (for the most part) like UMD to go unchallenged.

[indigen]

Prolet, well I do declare ... you seem to be sounding far more aggressive lately.
Are you fed up mate?

I know I certainly am and I am losing patience with anything resembling diplomacy when we continue to be treated like rubbish. Having said that I have far more disrespect for Macedonians than anyone else. We bring it upon ourselves if we allow any sign of acceptance of being less important to continue.

Фуере се извини за користењето на државен наместо македонски јазик
Љубиша Николовски
10.11.2010

Вашиот јазик е македонски, и јазикот кој јас го говорам е македонски, нашата политика кон оваа земја е непроменета, се извини евроамбасадорот Ерван Фуере за недоразбирањето настанато со формулацијата „државен јазик“ употребена во извештајот на Европската Комисија.

„Ние се извинуваме за било какво недоразбирање. Апсолутно нема промена. Сакам да ве уверам во однос на нашата политиката и доколку ме прашаат кој е официјалниот или државен јазик на земјата, јас ќе кажам македонски јазик“, вели Ерван Фуере, евроамбасадор.

Претходно и претседателот Иванов побара објаснување од претставникот на Европската Унија за некористењето на придавката македонски во извештаите на Европската Комисија.

Придавката македонски не се употребува од 2006. наваму. Зборот македонски воопшто го нема во извештаите во последниве четири години за достигнувањата на Македонија.

Македонските власти и досега можеа но четири години молчеа за прекинувањето на таканаречената „вообичаена пракса“ за која денеска зборува Иванов.

Случајно или не, реакцијата доаѓа на еден од покритичките извештаи што ги добива земјава, констатирани се голем број слабости во клучните области.

Можеби парадоксално, но затоа пак во годинашниов извештај за напредокот на Албанија Европската Комисија отворено се залага за повеќе права на македонското малцинство во таа држава, нарекувајќи ги со вистинското име Македонци.

http://a1.com.mk/vesti/default.aspx?VestID=130050

for fair use only.

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The adjective Macedonian has not been included in the EU reports for the last 4 years and apparently there was no complaints from anyone in Macedonia (at least from official state representatives according to A1 reporting). So where were Miloshoski, Gruevski and Crvenkovski all this time?

[Prolet]

Prolet, well I do declare ... you seem to be sounding far more aggressive lately.
Are you fed up mate?

I know I certainly am and I am losing patience with anything resembling diplomacy when we continue to be treated like rubbish. Having said that I have far more disrespect for Macedonians than anyone else. We bring it upon ourselves if we allow any sign of acceptance of being less important to continue.

Risto, A man can only take so much, this final EU Izvestaj broke the straw off the camels back. I dont disagree that we are to blame but not fully as our people are scared and backed into a corner with fears that if we dont join the EU we wont exist as a country anymore. If we had a united approach and our people were giving in then thats different but with the komunjari who got other interests there is no unity.

We are in a far better position then Greece is, over 130 countries have recognized us why do we give up now? Za sramota

Alot of our people in Stari Kraj believe that once we join the EU, we will be this strong economic country and money will be falling from the sky but the reality is that in the short run at least in the following 10 years once we join the EU, our lives will be made very difficult and we will be working for the other EU countries like whats happening with Slovenija at the moment.

[fyrOM]

Wining the recognition of our identity is important. I really don’t care if its in or out of the eu which is really just a means to and end and as Prolet say will probably screw Macedonia after an initial flush of money. In the medium term tough times are coming to most Macedonians one way or the other.

The eu like to think of themselves as legal masters but using their own and our words against them is the only way as not even they can keep defending the indefendable forever with just words all we need to do is not be embarrassed to open our mouths.

[Bratot]

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The adjective Macedonian has not been included in the EU reports for the last 4 years and apparently there was no complaints from anyone in Macedonia (at least from official state representatives according to A1 reporting). So where were Miloshoski, Gruevski and Crvenkovski all this time?

What government bre?

How can we think of having a serious government when you listen this bullshit:

Милошоски:Европа да помогне за решавање на спорот

http://kanal5.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=37&egId=13&eventId=67031

This idiot calls EU to help the dispute Greece got with our name, while it's quite evident of EU's antimacedonian policy in favor of Greece.

[PetarMKD]

What government bre?

How can we think of having a serious government when you listen this bullshit:

Милошоски:Европа да помогне за решавање на спорот

http://kanal5.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=37&egId=13&eventId=67031

This idiot calls EU to help the dispute Greece got with our name, while it's quite evident of EU's antimacedonian policy in favor of Greece.

Brat I now you are a smart guy but you missed the point here or you are just avoiding the obvious conclusion on purpose. The EU is the generator of this problem not the supporter.... I would say that the fagots south of the Republic of Macedonia are the supporters of the EU policy cause it is in their favor. Also I know you know that this guy - Miloshoski is a Bulgarian just as Boneva is... I would bet my life on this trust me.

[Risto the Great]

"Identity is not something you can negotiate, it is something sacred for every individual and nation, and it should not be abused for partisan political interests", added Fouere.

I believe a logical extension of the above (most welcome) statement is to critically evaluate EU policy in relation to the concept of "identity" and how EU policy has been attempting to destroy the Macedonian identity over the last 15 years.

Fouere's statement is welcome, now we need to hold the EU to these statements.

[Bratot]

You can put that as well Petre, but persons like Milosevski doesn't have idealogical background, maybe when he was a student and still believed in his mentors, but today he is fully calculated in his interests and he would sold out himself for the better price, furthermore, he as a minister is stating the position of the government, that should worry us much more than some ideological nomad.

[PetarMKD]

Maybe you are right about Milososki, however I think that Macedonians should realize first that we are being infiltrated by bulgarians who as always are trying to mimic our organizations and people (they are the cuckoo's eggs in our nest). We need to get rid of the fifth column and our luck will start to change I guarantee it... The Macedonians are honest people and they realize how dirty the politics issues are, however in order to prosper we must get dirty. So the answer is kick the infiltrators out of our organizations since they are easy to identify and install as many Macedonians as we can on their places.

[Soldier of Macedon]

The Macedonians are honest people and they realize how dirty the politics issues are, however in order to prosper we must get dirty.

This is true on several levels.