Alpha TV - Scandal??

[Bill77]

What a joke these so called Greeks are. A good example of the treatmeant of Macedonians in Greek society. Father Nikodim remained cool through out this set up and i congratulate him on that. What was discusting, he was not given much of a chance to respond to the false claims and the humiliation he had to sit through.

[Bill77]

This is from the Greek Alter TV program Atheatos Kosmos of September 17, 2002. Its a little old but worth watching.

Bravo Pope Nikodim.

also check out the skin tone of the Greek church rep compared to the Macedonian priest. lol

YouTube - Tsarknias-Atheatos Kosmos-ALTER TV GR -17/09/02

[TrueMacedonian]

YouTube - ALPHA TV - Scandalous Parliamentary Committee - Part 1


Spartan, Wanderer, or any other Greek here, or somebody that can speak Greek, can you please give us the jist of this clip - I understand that Natse Parisis is trying to tell them something about Macedonians, but the other guy is obviously hearing this in disbelief and trying to deny what he is saying.

Just caught my attention due to the title of the clip regarding some 'scandal', what's the scandal, that a Macedonian was allowed to talk on TV, or that a Macedonian spoke about his Macedonian identity and language (I heard Makedoniki Glossa) on TV? Or something else? Appreciate your help.

The host looks like this guy who owned a souvlaki stand around my old neighborhood. We used to torment him and throw eggs at him in halloween when we were young teens lol. He used to always yell at us and scream "This is Bullsit" lol.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Wanderer, thank you, you're a gentleman.

[Bill77]

Continue:
Host:Anyway,good day to you.And you should know something.
Guest:That was it?
H:Greeks are very proud and for Macedonia and for Great Alexander.
G:This is not information.This is propaganda.We just did an opening and nothing more.Problems are not being solved like that.Mr Velopoulos expresses an ethnofascism.How can he expresses himself like that.
H:Ok,he might went a bit over the edges,but it was an opinion of a Macedonian man.
G:Nobody denies that he is a Macedonian.
H:And he is not the only one.Many express the same opinions.
G:Yes,but we should be given the chance to speak and heard our opinions.
H:And something else,all these you say make even the citizens of all North Greece to demonstrate and be annoyed.
G:What you say is not true.Its not the whole(and then says something that I cannot express in English).The members of the party dont belong to this whole.
Velopoulos:Only 1200 ,they are.
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And then I cant make sense what they say.

And then the other dumb,says about the imperialistic politic of Macedonia etc.

Generally,you cant make sense out of this.
The host is Georgos Autias,and is the stupidest among the stupid.Everybody laughs with him and there exists even a video,which shows himself talking to a video :P
The other Velopoulos guy,is member of LAOS ,party far-right,so its normal for him to express fascist opinions.

Thanks wanderer. I was not that far off i hope. mabe i should stick to my day job and forget about Becoming an interpretor. We apreiciate your time and efort.

[Wanderer]

Continue:
Host:Anyway,good day to you.And you should know something.
Guest:That was it?
H:Greeks are very proud and for Macedonia and for Great Alexander.
G:This is not information.This is propaganda.We just did an opening and nothing more.Problems are not being solved like that.Mr Velopoulos expresses an ethnofascism.How can he expresses himself like that.
H:Ok,he might went a bit over the edges,but it was an opinion of a Macedonian man.
G:Nobody denies that he is a Macedonian.
H:And he is not the only one.Many express the same opinions.
G:Yes,but we should be given the chance to speak and heard our opinions.
H:And something else,all these you say make even the citizens of all North Greece to demonstrate and be annoyed.
G:What you say is not true.Its not the whole(and then says something that I cannot express in English).The members of the party dont belong to this whole.
Velopoulos:Only 1200 ,they are.
---
And then I cant make sense what they say.

And then the other dumb,says about the imperialistic politic of Macedonia etc.

Generally,you cant make sense out of this.
The host is Georgos Autias,and is the stupidest among the stupid.Everybody laughs with him and there exists even a video,which shows himself talking to a video :P
The other Velopoulos guy,is member of LAOS ,party far-right,so its normal for him to express fascist opinions.

[Risto the Great]

We want more Bill, go for it Forrest!

I choked on my coffee.

Life is like a box full of Greeks, one of them will be alright. The rest taste the same, terrible.

[Risto the Great]

Idiom for some.
Language for 2 million others.

[Wanderer]

I will translate the dialogue,as it is from 2:00 minute and then:
Host:Is it true that you did a pro-electional spot of the party in an another language-Bulgarian?
Guest:Its not in this language.Its in our Macedonian Language.
H:Which is this?
G:This language,is a language that is being spoken by many Greek citizens that live in Greece.
H:And you understand that you have the whole political system,against you.
G:Of course.
H:So ,you dont do something well there.
G:Look,the Greek political system goes with an onether big political system,the one of Europe's.According to Europe's political system,this is logical.
H:What is your ambition?And this language,where is being spoken?Because,you speak about minorities,that dont exist(Hehe,here I must say that he says at the beginning,that had been dissapeared ,but then he corrects this).Everyone here asks,what this man says ''What minorities and where?''
G:Its a reality,that no one can deny.A simple trip to Macedonia and to Thessaloniki,will be good.
H:Here Velopoulos(the other guy)must say something,as a Thessalonician.
Velopoulos:No,no I dont want to speak with Parisis.I dont.I am a Thessalonikios and my wife is true Macedonian and she speaks the idiom.This man is rudiculous.He is fondamentalist.

I stop at 3:55 ,because I have something to do.In the next hours,I will post and the following conversation.

[Prolet]

Spolaj Ti Blagojche

Every language is a treasury, the more our people know the Greek Language the better.

[Bill77]

Snam zato mi tekna i go izbrshiv. Na granicata ednas me zastanaja i prashuvaja za tatkomi i za mene. Kleti po kleti od Turci.

[The LION will ROAR]

Bill77, Kaj si nauche Grechko..?

[Soldier of Macedon]

Thanks alot Billy, opasen si, arno napraje, spolaiti.

[Bill77]

We want more Bill, go for it Forrest!

Ahhh i got you hanging. But that was the gist of it up untill he was cut off. Then the panel at the end started talking about politics between Skopje and athens.


But to sum it up, the usual. Greece acting dumb. Pretend there are no Macedonian speakers. Macedonia is Greek. Alexander is Greek. Then when someone speaks against what they want to hear, they cut them off.

Macedonians put there hands up. They say yes we exist. We do not and never have thought of our selves anything else apart from Macedonians. Then we get cut off.

All in all, they hope the problem go's away by turning off the lights and hope it was only a night mare.


So i might yet have a chance getting a job at the UN after all.

[Daskalot]

We want more Bill, go for it Forrest!