Originally posted by Divorcee
How exactly do you consider the above text to be in favour of your pointless crusade? To anybody other than an idiot the terms Macedonian and Greek are not interchangeable, while the reference to Modern Greek means the above text is not as simplistic as your perception of it. Take a look at the Cinzars for example, they practice the Greek (Orthodox Christian) religion which would result in several of them also learning the Greek tongue (in varying degrees) through church and schooling, hence the reason they can 'pass' as Greeks, not because they are Greeks. Are you trying to say that the Macedonian name was generic for all 'Greeks', and if so, can you show me where in this peanut theory of yours is there room for Athenians and Spartans being reffered to as Macedonians in the early 1800's? Or are you trying to say that the Macedonians were the only 'Greeks' in Hungary, who numbered approx. 2,500,000 people in total?
Who are these 'Greeks'?
Well, well, united (with Rome) and not united 'Greeks', 2 and half mill, all ethnic Greeks? Or, are these the 'Modern Greeks' indicated in the initial text that the Orthodox Macedonians are supposed to be, along with the several thousand Orthodox Serbs and Bulgarians in Hungary?
Interesting text, it indicates that Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgars and Rascians migrated north into Hapsburg territory after the latter's battle with the Turks which re-commenced in the late 1730's. This coincides with other migrations of Macedonians and related Slavic peoples, which took place in the same era.
http://wsu.edu/~dee/OTTOMAN/17TH.HTM
After the peace treaty with the European Powers the Turks inflicted a severely harsh reprisal on the Macedonians, which prompted some of the first signs of emigration into Austria and Russia. Several Christians of the Ottoman Empire made requests for emigration to Russia, and in the year 1751 these requests were granted to Macedonians, Serbs, Vlachs and Bulgarians. The following year in 1752 infantry regiments were established within the Russian army which were divided according to nationality, described in a Russian royal edict as the "Orthodox Serbian, Macedonian, Bulgarian and Vlach peoples”.
In the year 1757 Montenegrin Metropolitan Vasilije Petrovic wrote a letter to the Russian Count Shuvalov expressing the feelings of the “Albanians, Macedonians, Bosnians, Serbs and Bulgarians”, who viewed Russia as the great Orthodox Slavic power and their saviour from the Turks. The Macedonians in the Russian regiments were still active in the mid 1760's as a number of them were sent back into Balkan lands to fight for the cause of freedom from the Turks.
Meanwhile, the increase of Austrian power in the region also made it a safe haven for Christian fugitives from the Ottoman Empire, particularly during the years 1765-66, as the struggle of the Macedonians, Serbs, Bosnians and others against the Turks became relentless. The strength and attraction of the powerful empires belonging to Austria and Russia were to assist in sustaining the hope of the Christians in the Ottoman Empire during the 18th and 19th centuries.
In the eighteenth century, the Ottomans fought a series of wars with European powers. Between 1714 and 1718, they fought with the small country of Venice; between 1736 and 1739, they fought with Austria and Russia in order to stop the expansion of these powers into Muslim territories.
In the year 1757 Montenegrin Metropolitan Vasilije Petrovic wrote a letter to the Russian Count Shuvalov expressing the feelings of the “Albanians, Macedonians, Bosnians, Serbs and Bulgarians”, who viewed Russia as the great Orthodox Slavic power and their saviour from the Turks. The Macedonians in the Russian regiments were still active in the mid 1760's as a number of them were sent back into Balkan lands to fight for the cause of freedom from the Turks.
As a result the possibility to form the two additional regiments in new Serbia was created: Macedonian and Bulgarian field hussar from the unmarried and lonely people, which did not wish to manage in the settling.
All these fugitives, Uskoks....Albanians, Macedonians, Serbians and Wallachians, were hospitably received in Austria, and settled as beforein...the Banat, for the defence of the frontier.
Are you still following me champ? Can you show me where your 2.5 million "ethnic Greeks" in Austria-Hungary disappeared to?
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