Tsar Samoil and the Archbishopric of Ohrid in Macedonia

[TerraNova]

And the explanation of why is given above. Could you by any chance show where any state, army and people are collectively called "Hellenic" during the same period? I'm all ears.

Even there are plenty examples of the use of the term Ellinas,instead of Romios (Ioannis Vatatzes,Choniatis,Anna Comnena,etc)
i don't denounce the term Romios-it is used until now..meaning the same.
Romios and Ellinas are the same.
Do you think Bulgarian and Macedonian are the same too?

Nice link Daskale.

http://macedoniantruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/britannica_greece_2008-small1.jpg

Nice...but doesn't support your delusions

Well, I guess the first Greek constitution answers most of that.

I guess firstGreekConstitution needs a surgery to be removed from your head.
Its like a tumor.

[Soldier of Macedon]

ALL the sources i m aware of ,call Samuel,his army,his people and his state Bulgarian.

And the explanation of why is given above. Could you by any chance show where any state, army and people are collectively called "Hellenic" during the same period? I'm all ears.

Nice link Daskale.

http://macedoniantruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/britannica_greece_2008-small1.jpg

Britannica is rather clear.

Indeed. My, my, one wonders how many of today's modern Greeks are actually descended from native Greek-speaking populations in what constitutes modern Greece (today). Well, I guess the first Greek constitution answers most of that.

[Daskalot]

I see that you accept Britannica in that particular case, what about this one then on the ethnic composition of Greece;

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2008/10/18/encyclopedia-britannica-the-real-ethnic-composition-of-greece-includes-macedonians-2008/

[TerraNova]

If by western Bulgaria they are referring to the former (and recently acquired) periphery territories of the First Bulgarian Empire, as the land and core territory of Samuel's Empire was in Macedonia, and not Bulgaria, which is located in upper Thrace bordering the Danube.

Bulgarian Patriarchate? Lol. The Bulgarian Patriarchate was finished, over, no more. Samuel established the Ohrid Patriarchate, the Bulgarian label a mere remnant from the time of the Bulgarian Empire, which was also further reinforced by the establishment of the East Roman theme known as the 'Bulgaria Theme', which, oddly enough, included modern Macedonian and Serbian territory, but not modern (or medieval for that matter) Bulgarian territory.

Such emphasis some people like to misleadingly place on these name games, while closing their eyes to some obvious points of truth such as the language, letters, people and geography of Samuel's state, which, were all the same as the people who live there today.

Britannica is rather clear.
ALL the sources i m aware of ,call Samuel,his army,his people and his state Bulgarian.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Western Bulgaria?
Bulgarian patriarchate?

SoM ..... yoohoo ;-)

If by western Bulgaria they are referring to the former (and recently acquired) periphery territories of the First Bulgarian Empire, as the land and core territory of Samuel's Empire was in Macedonia, and not Bulgaria, which is located in upper Thrace bordering the Danube.

Bulgarian Patriarchate? Lol. The Bulgarian Patriarchate was finished, over, no more. Samuel established the Ohrid Patriarchate, the Bulgarian label a mere remnant from the time of the Bulgarian Empire, which was also further reinforced by the establishment of the East Roman theme known as the 'Bulgaria Theme', which, oddly enough, included modern Macedonian and Serbian territory, but not modern (or medieval for that matter) Bulgarian territory.

Such emphasis some people like to misleadingly place on these name games, while closing their eyes to some obvious points of truth such as the language, letters, people and geography of Samuel's state, which, were all the same as the people who live there today.

[Risto the Great]

Western Bulgaria?
Bulgarian patriarchate?

SoM ..... yoohoo ;-)

[Bratot]

Samuel tsar of Macedonia
died Oct. 6, 1014, Prilep, Macedonia

tsar of Western Bulgaria, or Macedonia, from 980; his realm was successor to the First Bulgarian empire.

Ruling originally in Macedonia, Samuel then conquered independent Serbia and further extended his power into northern Bulgaria, Albania, and northern Greece. He established his capital at Ochrida (now Ohrid, Macedonia) and revived the Bulgarian patriarchate. In the 980s he defeated the Byzantine emperor Basil II Bulgaroctonus near Sofia, but from 997 the intermittent struggle with the Byzantines went against him. Finally, on July 29, 1014, Basil overwhelmed Samuel in the Battle of Belasitsa. At Basil’s order, the Bulgarian prisoners (said to number 15,000) were blinded and returned to Samuel, who fainted from shock and soon died. He was succeeded by his son Gavril (murdered in 1015) and a nephew Ivan (killed in battle in 1018), after which Bulgaria became a Byzantine province.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/520801/Samuel

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http://www.vmro.bg/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=337