Ansamblot Calgii Bitolcani od Bitola

[Makedonetz]

Onur your culture so vast was like a sponge picking up different cultures and mixing them all together. Same as ours from the different regions we have different dialects/music genres.

Anyone else have clips of different macedonian styles? be interesting to hear the different types of music we have made during the century's

[Makedonetz]

I don't know this band but this music is quite like late 19th century, early 20th century ottoman era music. It`s easily recognizable for me

I watched other parts of the video on youtube too, Calgii Bitolcani 2-3-4-5. This is classical Turkish music of 19th century with Istanbul and Izmir style but they play in Macedonian rhythm and tempo.


For example, the song they play in Calgii Bitolcani-3 is this one;

YouTube - TRT TSM Koro-Çalıkuşu (Daldan Dala Konarım)

This is chorus version with high tempo but melody is recognizable. The famous composer of this song is "Yesari Asim Arsoy" of early 20th century. I just checked wikipedia, it says he has born in Drama, eastern Macedonia at 1900.


I found a video of same song here, newer version;

YouTube - Zoran Dzorlev - Vladimir Janevski: Staro Bitolsko oro




I heard the songs in Calgii Bitolcani 1-2-4 too but i cant remember the names of these songs atm.

Btw, in Calgii Bitolcani-4, if you would mute the sound of it, i would easily confuse that video with a Turkish movie of 1950s which shows Ottoman era in Turkey But i can even partly understand what the guy says at the start of the video;

YouTube - Calgii Bitolcani 4

He is talking about a huge, powerful(babachko) roughneck(kabadayi) and i guess something about a bistro(kahfanata?, meyhane, kahve-de; in the bistro?). Am i right?

Onur i belive you got it right, some of his dialect i cna't pick up but after drinking a few tukiye coffee i do the same thing on the floor

[Onur]

And i found a video of Jewish musicians now. 19th century Istanbul, Izmir style(probably Salonika too) again. It`s so beautiful;

YouTube - sephardic music


Btw Arabic influence in Turkish(ottoman era) music didn't come from Arabs themselves. It was these Jews from Andalusia(Spain) who bring Arabic, Spanish and even north African style to the Turkey after 1492 AD.

I think this was the best thing in Ottoman era. ~10 different cultures and languages from Balkans, Anatolia, Mediterranean amalgamated and produced this music. Thats why our(yours too) music is so rich. I believe it`s the most broad, variable and richest music in the world.

[Onur]

I found this video while i was watching others;

YouTube - BAKLAVA - Oj Devojche, Üsküdar, Fel Shara

A band called Baklava? Who are these people? Are they Macedonian Turks or?

Btw this "Uskudara gider iken" is quite an old song. Early 19th century or maybe even late 18th century. The composer`s name is unknown but he was a Sephardi Jew from Istanbul. They say, this song has been sung in 15-20 different language throughout time by people from all over Balkans, Anatolia, middle-east and mediterranean.

[Onur]

Good eye opener to these non hell-ass we are here to stay past present and future! :rmacedonia

Do you think this will be enough? cuz they say these are Byzantine Greek culture and music and we all imitate them Like this type of music "really" existed in 14th century!!!


Here it is, this one is another song of Yesari Asim Arsoy;

YouTube - thria "irtha ta ximeromata" " Ήρθα τα ξημερώματα"



And this one is from Tanburi Cemil bey, 19th century Turkish composer from Istanbul. Song named �e�en kizi(Chechenian girl);

YouTube - Thria "cicen kizi"



These all are Greek mate, we are doomed


But highest rated comment in this last video is great.
From Greek guy; "All racists Greeks and Turks should drown in baklava's syrup!!"

[Onur]

I don't know this band but this music is quite like late 19th century, early 20th century ottoman era music. It`s easily recognizable for me

I watched other parts of the video on youtube too, Calgii Bitolcani 2-3-4-5. This is classical Turkish music of 19th century with Istanbul and Izmir style but they play in Macedonian rhythm and tempo.


For example, the song they play in Calgii Bitolcani-3 is this one;

YouTube - TRT TSM Koro-Çalıkuşu (Daldan Dala Konarım)

This is chorus version with high tempo but melody is recognizable. The famous composer of this song is "Yesari Asim Arsoy" of early 20th century. I just checked wikipedia, it says he has born in Drama, eastern Macedonia at 1900.


I found a video of same song here, newer version;

YouTube - Zoran Dzorlev - Vladimir Janevski: Staro Bitolsko oro




I heard the songs in Calgii Bitolcani 1-2-4 too but i cant remember the names of these songs atm.

Btw, in Calgii Bitolcani-4, if you would mute the sound of it, i would easily confuse that video with a Turkish movie of 1950s which shows Ottoman era in Turkey But i can even partly understand what the guy says at the start of the video;

YouTube - Calgii Bitolcani 4

He is talking about a huge, powerful(babachko) roughneck(kabadayi) and i guess something about a bistro(kahfanata?, meyhane, kahve-de; in the bistro?). Am i right?

[Makedonetz]

Onur are you familiar with this band? and this time period,. Good eye opener to these non hell-ass we are here to stay past present and future! :rmacedonia

YouTube - Calgii Bitolcani1