Provocation for being Macedonian - Personal Experiences

[Bill77]

I suppose we can call this provocation......if the shoe was on the other foot and we sung a song regarding Alexanders annihilation of Greeks (which would be the truth) the bitches would have filled the "Solunsko more" with tears.

Greek Elite Scuba Diving Team Forced to stop singing about 'glorious Macedonia'


"Shut your mouths, that song is banned" was an order from a Greek commanding officer after a group of what appear to be elite scuba diving soldiers sang 'glorious Macedonia' while marching in the city of Pazar.

At first the soldiers were warned with a loud whistle, but since they continued singing the commanding officer ran up to them and forced them to stop.

The soldiers were instructed to sing a song in which the 'greekness' of Macedonia is celebrated by thieir group leader who appeared very angry when a higher ranking Army officer prevented them.
The group leader went as far as to complain to Greece's Minister of Defense who confirmed that there was indeed a directive by the highest ranks in the Army banning the song.

What is it that the soldiers sang?
"Macedonia, land of Alexander. You got rid of the tyrants (referring to the Macedonians), and now you are free. You were and you remain Greek. Greeks were and are proud, Macedonians can not live oppressed. Even if they lose everything, freedom will remain. Macedonians play, be happy."

This is part of the song "Glorious Macedonia". Not necessarily a masterpiece or a catchy song, unfortunately Greece at this time can only afford the services of Steve Gaga, the little known brother of Lady Gaga. //Meri Sazdovska
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/21276/1/

[Commander Bond]

I don't know this man personaly...but i read on FB how a Macedonian was ordered to take his top off at Athens airport because it displayed the Macedonian sun. Thats Razers European democracy for yah.

I know that back in 2008 a Frenchman by the name of Robin Poupel was in the same situation. We should get him to become a member here.

Scroll down to read the article here -
The title is -
At Least One Frenchman Supports Macedonians

http://the-macedonian-tendency.blogspot.com.au/2008_07_01_archive.html

[Bill77]

Bumping up this thread,
As I'm guessing many Macedonian will be visiting greece this year..
Curious to see if any will experience any provocations for just being Macedonian...

I don't know this man personaly...but i read on FB how a Macedonian was ordered to take his top off at Athens airport because it displayed the Macedonian sun. Thats Razers European democracy for yah.

[The LION will ROAR]

Bumping up this thread,
As I'm guessing many Macedonian will be visiting greece this year..
Curious to see if any will experience any provocations for just being Macedonian...

[George S.]

The only thing that is consistent with macedonians is that they have this slave mentality.They let others decide their fate for them,They let greeks write their history for them.They readily accept propaganda dished out to confuse them as to who they are.THe govt is weak & the only actions for all decisions is compromise & capitulation.THere is no decisiveness but indecision.Also fear of offending moborities & fear offending their neighbour sets in they can't name statues or aiports after historical figures.The mindset of a slave is not very good no one yearns for the taste of freeedom like in the old days when real heroes were around

[EgejskaMakedonia]

I don't mind greeks at all, their agenda is typically obvious. Macedonians often give me much more cause for concern.

At least they are consistent in what they do, despite being in a total state of denial. However when it comes to Macedonians, consistency isn't always present...

[Risto the Great]

I don't mind greeks at all, their agenda is typically obvious. Macedonians often give me much more cause for concern.

[Zarni]

I make it a simple rule work with Greeks in a professional manner but that is it personally I never like to come across a Greek.

[EgejskaMakedonia]

This has probably been posted somewhere before, but it's relevant nonetheless.
The parts I've highlighted in boxes are the personel accounts that are related to the Greek provocations and ongoing oppression of Macedonians in Greece and even abroad.
The part about Article 19 is also very interesting and a complete joke. The Greeks really are a unique, inhumane bunch.

[The LION will ROAR]

TLWR, this is a case of Greeks being nice to you (to your face) but still unable to be trusted in matters of identity. They are generally good people on all levels except this issue of identity & nationality. Put them in a group and the pack mentality starts to fester. In this instance, they may as well be spitting on your identity. I would ask about their motivations.

I totally agree with you 100%, face level they are nice but behind your back they are all the same...Racist and Anti -Macedonian.
I am waiting for the day they slip inregards to my identity...

[Risto the Great]

TLWR, this is a case of Greeks being nice to you (to your face) but still unable to be trusted in matters of identity. They are generally good people on all levels except this issue of identity & nationality. Put them in a group and the pack mentality starts to fester. In this instance, they may as well be spitting on your identity. I would ask about their motivations.

[The LION will ROAR]

ProMKD I'm afraid it happens too often...just found out today another Macedonian who I know is marrying a greek girl...

RTG, I have not yet spoken to any of them..my mother herd this from their mother who lives up the road.. I'm pretty sure they would not mention it to me..

[Risto the Great]

I would say the response seems quite normal in conditions of divorce. I am not saying it is right, but it clearly represents a way of attacking the former spouse and probably makes the woman feel better.

TLWR, did you ask your friend about his sister's motivations for doing this?

[ProMKD]

A greek friend of mine's sister who had married a Macedonian quite a few years back but unfortunately divorced not too long ago leaving 2 kids very young without their dad...today I here that the kids have been RE-CHRISTEN at a greek church were initially they were already christened under a Macedonian Church..
I yet don’t know the full story but I would bet their greek priest had some say in it...

This really boiled by blood.. but not sure whether to question their actions or not..

It boiled your blood that they re-baptised the kids? Was it not a possibility in anyone's mind that a greek and a Macedonian relationship could equal trouble?

Why the hell would you enter any sort of relationship with a greek??? I'm not saying it has to be a Macedonian, but seriously, a greek??? What's wrong with people

[The LION will ROAR]

A greek friend of mine's sister who had married a Macedonian quite a few years back but unfortunately divorced not too long ago leaving 2 kids very young without their dad...today I here that the kids have been RE-CHRISTEN at a greek church were initially they were already christened under a Macedonian Church..
I yet don’t know the full story but I would bet their greek priest had some say in it...

This really boiled by blood.. but not sure whether to question their actions or not..