Once were warriors

[Helvetia]

1. Do you fly the ventilator?
2...rash actions - you speak of war
I speak of a moral revolution, changing peoples enslaved mindsets, and mediocre acceptance, of peaceful protest and demonstration

No, of course not, I fly the only Macedonian flag.

I was talking about how war isn't an opinion, that's a big difference from encouraging it.

Well, I think we are doing pretty decent right now. You might have a different perspective, obviously a more negative one. But I am a pragmatist and an optimist.

[Helvetia]

Macedonia square is very beautiful
I enjoyed seeing all the leaders and wonderful Macedonians in the square.
I cried when I saw "warrior on a horse" , an awesome statue, without a name. I cried because he had no name . Symbols wiped off soldiers shields.

How is the Skopje 2014 project contributing to national sovereignty??

Incidentally ...Macedonia fallen hard and fast.....using YOUR words

They might be without names but I think we all know what they represent and that is the important part.

[julie]

No, of course not, I fly the only Macedonian flag.

I was talking about how war isn't the opinion, that's a big difference from encouraging it.

Well, I think we are doing pretty decent right now. You might have a different perspective, obviously a more negative one. But I am a pragmatist and an optimist.

Your positive acceptance is passive acceptance of the erosion of Macedonian sovereignty
My negative perspective is Macedonian sovereignty and Macedonia for the Macedonians

May I ask you why you keep bringing up WAR?
War is not in my thought process. peaceful demonstration is not war

[Vangelovski]

I understand where you're coming from, and unfortunately, this is something we must accept for now. When we've managed to turn our country into a Western equivalent of Switzerland or close then we can think about abolishing the Framework and ensure the Albanians are assimilated. But right now? We're just a poor country with barely any power. If we tried to take matters into our own hands, we would be immediately crushed by the NATO just as they crushed the Serbs when they tried to take on Kosovo problems by their own.

Helvetia, you remind me of someone who didn't last here very long. I don't expect you to last much longer than he did.

[Risto the Great]

They might be without names but I think we all know what they represent and that is the important part.

Is that you FYROM?

[Phoenix]

Well, we did manage to prevent the Albanians from breaking off and taking Western Macedonia with them. That, in my eyes, is a victory for us since we prevented their primary objective. We managed to turn the NATO against them as well, to compare, the NATO bombed the Serbs for trying to kick out the Albanians. That didn't happen, the NATO helped us clean up the Albanians, especially in that Essential Harvest operation. I know some of us consider it a defeat because we signed the Framework but we are still a young nation. Albanians will be eventually assimilated and all the rights they got with the Ohrid Framework won't really matter in the next 50 years since they'll be identifying as Macedonian by then.

OMG...is this guy for real...????

[Phoenix]

No, of course not, I fly the only Macedonian flag.

I was talking about how war isn't an opinion, that's a big difference from encouraging it.

Well, I think we are doing pretty decent right now. You might have a different perspective, obviously a more negative one. But I am a pragmatist and an optimist.

You're kidding yourself...you're a fuckin' idiot mate.

[Phoenix]

Are you sure you are not Albanians Helvetia?
Macedonia did not win any war in 2001.

a shiptar no doubt about it...

only a shiptar wants the swiss model for Macedonia

[Phoenix]

I would like to encourage Admin to change the avatar of this newly arrived shiptar.

I find his avatar grossly offensive and if we're serious about criticizing the current Macedonian flag, I'll be fucked if Im going to put up with this clowns swiss flag drapped over geographical Macedonia as his avatar