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  • Daniel the Great
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1084

    #46
    I found this a wile ago and posted it elsewhere in the forum, but i don't think much people saw it, so here it is again:

    Ludewig Albrecht Gebhardi Geschichte des Reichs Hungarn und der damit ... By Ludwig Albrecht Gebhardi
    Macedonians noted, 1781!







    This is a translation of the above page by Google translate:

    And because" the means by which they selbige he arrived, that the act in view, and gave them the security and Muslims, who "previously occupied towers citizens had returned. The Ragusans wished their thanks to desire the world from Au "gene set, and wanted her statue on a public place to erect his. But their chief believed that painting impression on their contemporaries and descendants as would stronger one, and left in their meeting house not only his image, but many drawings of victories set up, which he on the Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks, Macedonians, Tatars, Bosnians and Hungarians had gained, Staden. They encouraged further between him and the Venetian Frey State until a secret understanding, and finally that such a precise confidentiality, that the Venetian Signoria him in the golden book of their nobility and enrolled him against hunger Aryan king promised help, and tried, often tried as Association of the serving with the Roman Catholic Church to bring about.
    1781! not bad, not bad at all.

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    • Daniel the Great
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1084

      #47
      The Monthly magazine, Volume 6 By Sir Richard Phillips.
      Statistical account of Hungary.
      Macedonians noted 1798!





      The Wallachians 1024 and the Germans 291, But Hungary is also and frequented by Gingarians, Macedonians, Clementines, Jews and Gypsies.

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      • Bratot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2855

        #48


        The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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        • Mikail
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1338

          #49
          Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
          http://www.florina.org/news/2010/march03_g.asp

          THE VILLAGES OF KARATZOVAS

          Sunday 29/10/1933


          Nisi, Gkougkovo, Techovo, Vladovo. These four villages are located on the Voda river. Makedonika talk, think like Macedonians, have the same desires and the same dreams. But the Greek oppression of the Bulgarian propaganda and the minimal work of our organizations to keep away from the movement of a single and independent Macedonia.
          This year was reached by the Greek authorities to push the Vladovo against Gkougkovo ... This is Gkougkovo estate. The inhabitants are landless. The Vladovo is landless. The surrounding land, which is a free man of properties is scarce. The rest, the large estates, kept. So between the two villages up stories.
          These days, however, a group of landless Vladovou lowered to Vodena gave the Commission had to take issue. The comrades but they must guide and villages and Gkougkovo Techovo.
          National oppression is unimaginable. There are also lists of suspects, as in all other parts of Macedonia. The villager Gkougkovo Gkouleiman, will be prosecuted in Bulgaria, it is revolutionary. Here they make false statements with false signatures on behalf of the villagers to displace them. Threats, insults, economic exploitation. MACEDONIANS OF THE KARATZOVAS Macedonians in their villages fall in the Greek-Serbian border Karatzova spit blood ... No day passes can not rise up the Perislav the Toussaint and Loumpnitsa to make military chores. Fortifications, roads, and that military installation is done by villagers. There is freedom of "conscience" here ... The elections, the person who wants the post of stationmaster Loumpnitsas, one vote and the peasants. Also, the few white Russian émigrés, who settled here more, constantly terrorizing the locals. Soumpotsko In the capital of Karatzova-Captain Baku, Macedon make snap. All haphazard leeches and parasites, all leres budget to find refuge Aridea to be devastated and wipe out the local and refugee population of troubled farmers. The Karatzova consider it a colony. This colony, however, both go and wakes. In Tresno and Pozar Captain Tzavelas exploits one thousand and two ways of Macedonians. As for the numbers of posts and buildings on the border, we are aware of the whip. All systems of the border are oppressed by the Macedonians. Anyone who does not look suspicious to local authorities, must necessarily be absent. In Shamar fired a Ranger because he denounced as informers for the communist. In Loukovits they did raid group to find komitadjis in 1931 and broke the wood men, women and children. GKRONTSIELOVO - RODOVO - SARAKINOVO these three villages fell wild bloodthirsty clutches of the oppressor. Unimaginable terror at the point in the elections to pass the party leaders of the two bourgeois parties and to threaten them that if they do not vote their party would set fire ... The Sarakinovo has a history of revolutionary, despite the unimaginable persecution is to villagers. have fallen victims from this village on the Macedonia match with federalist tendencies. In 1928 we gave 60 votes in the region of Vodena this village known for its revolutionary history. Its effect on Gkrontsielovo and Rodovo is not small. The "pop" in the last election campaign dice door and spread terror unimaginable if you dare the villagers to vote Communist. It is ascertained that it called a secret meeting of the villagers and discussions. So, they decided that they should vote for the Communist Party, but due to terrorism and "good" of the village in the last election will vote "laity." So he did. It was that if partners of Vodena watched thoroughly villages fell into such errors? The error fell into and in other villages of the minority, as devastating as terrorism and economic misery. In Ritar, Vertekop in Vetsista, the male, Kamenik the Diocese and the same and worse in the field of national oppression. But in these villages, and generally in the villages of the plain, where they settled and refugees, it changes how the Greek oppression of capitalism. Here the plan is beyond any evilness. This puts the refugees to eat with the locals and tourists has refugees for enemies to create a gap. The gap was regularly fed by Venizelos and Tsaldaris dogs. This gap has to show us whole riots that shocked the hungry locals and refugee populations. Characteristic signs of this gap we will see below, in and around Vodena. N. Short ------------------------ - The text is by P. Kontos, newspaper

          Rizospastis , Sunday 29/10/1933.
          Here's the link to all the Rizospastis letter I found in Feb 2010

          http://www.gate.net/~mango/Rizospastis.htm Letters to "Rizospastis" (Journal of the Greek Communist Party) ELECTION PROGRAM OF THE WORKERS AND PEASANTS' UNITED FRONT, August 1932. The United Front of the Workers and Peasants declares that the struggle for support of the oppressed nationalities: the
          From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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          • Daniel the Great
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1084

            #50
            Oriental herald and journal of general literature: Volume 10 - Page 281

            Macedonians mentioned in 1826!








            public world from your tyranny But be assured on the contrary that the longer you pursue your execrable policy the more you will be heaping burning coals upon your heads If you consent to the extermination of the Greeks you must very speedily consent to the extermination of the Macedonians, the Bulgarians, the Servians (Serbs), and the people of Monte Negro but each of these.

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            • Daskalot
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 4345

              #51
              Great work, I am impressed, we are soon to reach 100 documents. A big thank you to all who are contributing to this thread.
              Macedonian Truth Organisation

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              • Daniel the Great
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1084

                #52
                Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                Great work, I am impressed, we are soon to reach 100 documents. A big thank you to all who are contributing to this thread.
                Yes, it's a great thread, but the question is how much proof will it actually take to prove that we are Macedonians to the ones who deny that the Macedonians are an ethnic group separate from any other.

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                • Daskalot
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4345

                  #53
                  Daniel no proof at all it is our right to do so.
                  Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                  • TrueMacedonian
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3823

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Daniel the Great View Post
                    Oriental herald and journal of general literature: Volume 10 - Page 281

                    Macedonians mentioned in 1826!





                    I've posted this before DTG. Sorry brother.

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                    • TrueMacedonian
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3823

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Mikail View Post
                      Here's the link to all the Rizospastis letter I found in Feb 2010

                      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ht=Rizospastis
                      Oops. My bad Mikail

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15661

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                        Daniel no proof at all it is our right to do so.
                        Exactly right.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Daniel the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1084

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                          Daniel no proof at all it is our right to do so.
                          Good answer.

                          Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                          I've posted this before DTG. Sorry brother.
                          not a problem Brat, if i knew i would't of posted it.

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                          • Bill77
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4545

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Daniel the Great View Post
                            Yes, it's a great thread, but the question is how much proof will it actually take to prove that we are Macedonians to the ones who deny that the Macedonians are an ethnic group separate from any other.
                            Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                            Daniel no proof at all it is our right to do so.
                            I would say "We should not have to prove it" but we must respond to inaccurate perception out there, regarding who Macedonians are and were.

                            So DTG's question steel remains unanswered, When will all this shenanigans end.

                            Answer: Well if we consider the progress and how far we Macedonians have come in the last decades (via speaking out and providing evidence), we will get there sooner than later if we keep exposing the truth. Just don't expect it over night.
                            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                            • Lorenzo
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 12

                              #59
                              разгледница од 1918
                              Last edited by Lorenzo; 08-09-2011, 02:28 AM.

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                              • Lorenzo
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 12

                                #60

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