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TV, what about the 12,000+ clergy that have supported the 'Clergy Letter Project', rejecting creationism...?Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostComment
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Phoenix, I'm going to accord you the same respect you do me.Originally posted by Phoenix View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Phoenix you continue to question everything a creationist writes on this thread yet you are still unable to provide us with your views or any evidence which disproves anything being said, if all evolutionists and athiests on this forum actually read all the articles of evidence TV has been so kind to post then this threads discussion would have ended a long time agoComment
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Actually Phoenix,
I provided a list of names. Can you provide a list of those 12,000 claimed names? Or is it more of a UMD type list?
Further, what kind of clergy reject the Bible? Are they all clergy?
Finally, what expertise to these clergymen have to make definitive statements on evolution?If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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I've asked you multiple times to present us with your view and you just refuse to do so...Originally posted by Phoenix View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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I found this article very Interesting it shows how atheists and agnostics (the two are very different from each other) face great discrimination like the manner fat and obese people are targeted
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It would have ended even quickier if YOU and TV bothered to listen to what the majority of other members had to say...instead YOU provided stupid dinosaur theories and TV prefers to talk down to anybody who has a different opinion to his own...Originally posted by vojnik View Post
BTW, seeing as TV won't 'talk' to me perhaps you could give me your impression of the 12,000+ clergy that have signed up to the 'Clergy Letter Project', effectively rejecting creationism.Comment
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12,000+ clergy of various denominations rejecting creationism and intelligent design...you don't like that, do you TV...Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostComment
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Phoenix, when you start contributing maybe I'll start "talking to you". How about you tell us what you believe and why? Or maybe you could tell me which of my posts you disagree with and why? Maybe you think a majority is always right, even when its wrong and does not need to provide any evidence simply because its in the majority? Is that one of your views?Originally posted by Phoenix View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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I also refuse to answer any questions you direct towards me as I am still waiting for you to share your views and provide evidence which contradicts anything being said.
Yes the dinosaur theory was stupid I admitted it I myself never have and still don't believe in it. You call it stupid yet promote evolution along with other members on this forum which is on the same level of stupid as the dinosaur statement hence why I used it. I mean come on Phoenix a common ancestor between chimpanzees and humans etc come off it there is no real evidence for such a thing or anything evolution stands for just quit before you get ahead of yourself mate.
Also if you could point me towards the rule which states that what the majority in the forum say is truth.
Your obviously blind to facts and continue to be ignorant trying to condem creation yet present no views of your own just critics on other members. Evolution only exists as an alternative to God with no real evidence to support this theoryComment
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TV, I think science and religion are 2 totally different things and should remain seperated.Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
I'm not here to attack your beliefs or to ridicule your faith but I don't share your literal interpretation of the bible, nor do I use it as the defining guidebook of my journey through life.
I find it extremely arrogant that one persons faith can be elevated higher than anybody elses faith or belief system.
I believe that creationism has been exposed as a flawed model of our existence and that the 'Intelligent Design' movement is a PC model of creationism promoted by a small but radical group of Christian fundementalists who have their own agenda to persue but lack the balls to define the 'Designer' as God himself.
It's that sort of rubbish that pushes away the flock, an inherent flaw in Christianity that it struggles to stand on its own two feet, without careful promotion, fear mongering and carefully crafted packaging and always ulterior machinations at work...
I don't profess to know all the answers and I live comfortably occupying the middle ground between science and religion, without being a slave to either.Comment
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Obviously you, since you asked for my opinion before.....Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
I was told to calm down when I got confrontational earlier on in the thread, which i did yet you continue I think the admins of this forum she give you a warning to calm down because your turning out to be beyond a jokeComment
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