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That should be the new Macedonian party name.Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View PostAnd people actually believe DPMNE are going to save the country and protect Macedonians, pfft.
Step aside VMRO and SDSM, here comes PFFT
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Originally posted by Tomche Makedonche View Posthttp://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...tes-10-02-2017
Macedonian Capital's Mayoral Hopefuls Court Albanian Votes
In a bid to woo ethnic Albanian voters – who may tip the outcome of the approaching local elections in Macedonia – both main mayoral candidates for the capital, Skopje, are keeping a lid on divisive nationalist language.
As the two leading candidates for the post of Mayor of Skopje try to woo ethnic Albanian voters ahead of the vote on October 15, both are avoiding the kind of divisive ethnic language that marred last year's general elections.
In the campaign for the December 2016 early general elections, the then ruling VMRO DPMNE party went all out in accusing its main opponents in the Social Democrats, SDSM, of surrendering to ethnic Albanian demands.
This year, however, the party's mayoral candidate for Skopje has even fielded ethnic Albanian politician as party's municipal counselor.
In a clear attempt to circumvent his party's dismal reputation among many Albanians, VMRO DPMNE's Koce Trajanovski, now running for his third term, got support from his Albanian party colleague, Muhamed Ameti.
The two can be seen posing together on Albanian-language billboards that also contain the party's election slogan: "A new era begins for Skopje."
The billboards have been widely displayed in the mainly Albanian districts of Cair and Saraj in Skopje.
A source from Trajanovski's electoral camp confided to BIRN that the party was well aware that it needed to court more Albanian votes.
"In last year's elections, ethnic Albanian votes boosted the SDSM. But in these local elections that will be hard to replicate, as everyone can see that Trajanovski is a hard-working mayor, so we expect many Albanian votes," the source, insisting on anonymity, said.
Previously, the party made few attempts to appeal to Albanians, who make up about a quarter of the population, concentrated in the north and west of the country.
They also make up between 10 and 20 per cent of the population of Skopje – but these numbers are only approximate as no national census has taken place in years.
Even after its lost power nationally in May, VMRO DPMNE's leader, Nikola Gruevski, continued attacked a new proposed law allowing greater official use of the Albanian language. Gruevski insisted it would be unconstitutional and would undermine national unity.
However, while appearing on an Albanian-language TV station, Alsat, Gruevski earlier this month insisted that he had nothing against Albanians and vowed to work on improving the party's relations with the community.
Meanwhile, Trajanovski's strongest rival, Petre Silegov, from the SDSM, has an advantage when it comes to courting Albanian votes in the capital.
This party has a far better standing among Albanians thanks to its more "civic" approach. In the last general election, the SDSM won at least 40,000 Albanian votes, which was unprecedented for a mainly ethnic Macedonian party.
For the municipal vote, the SDSM has already secured the support in Skopje of the country's strongest ethnic Albanian party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI.
The DUI switched sides nationally in May, abandoning its coalition alliance with VMRO DPMNE and forging a new majority in parliament, which brought the SDSM to power.
In return for its support in Skopje, the SDSM has agreed to support DUI candidates in several mainly Albanian municipalities, such as Tetovo, Gostivar and Debar.
"We will build Skopje together, and for everyone, just as we have started building Macedonia," Silegov told ethnic Albanian residents of Saraj, near Skopje on Sunday, asking for their support.
Skopje political Analyst Albert Musliu said the noticeably milder nationalistic rhetoric in this election reflected the very different nature of national and local elections – in which different parties must cooperate to win in ethnically mixed areas.
"In many specific municipalities, one or the other ethnic community needs the votes of the others [to win the election]," Musliu noted.
For the purpose of the local elections, Macedonia is divided into 81 municipalities. The prize is, of course, Skopje, which is home to a third of Macedonia's population of about 2 million.
A total of eight mayoral candidates are standing in Skopje but Trajanovski and Silegov are the front runner, backed by the two main parties in the ethnic Macedonian political camp.
The election campaign started on September 25. It closes on October 13 when an electoral silence descends until polling day On October 15
And people actually believe DPMNE are going to save the country and protect Macedonians, pfft.
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In a bid to woo ethnic Albanian voters – who may tip the outcome of the approaching local elections in Macedonia – both main mayoral candidates for the capital, Skopje, are keeping a lid on divisive nationalist language.
Macedonian Capital's Mayoral Hopefuls Court Albanian Votes
In a bid to woo ethnic Albanian voters – who may tip the outcome of the approaching local elections in Macedonia – both main mayoral candidates for the capital, Skopje, are keeping a lid on divisive nationalist language.
As the two leading candidates for the post of Mayor of Skopje try to woo ethnic Albanian voters ahead of the vote on October 15, both are avoiding the kind of divisive ethnic language that marred last year's general elections.
In the campaign for the December 2016 early general elections, the then ruling VMRO DPMNE party went all out in accusing its main opponents in the Social Democrats, SDSM, of surrendering to ethnic Albanian demands.
This year, however, the party's mayoral candidate for Skopje has even fielded ethnic Albanian politician as party's municipal counselor.
In a clear attempt to circumvent his party's dismal reputation among many Albanians, VMRO DPMNE's Koce Trajanovski, now running for his third term, got support from his Albanian party colleague, Muhamed Ameti.
The two can be seen posing together on Albanian-language billboards that also contain the party's election slogan: "A new era begins for Skopje."
The billboards have been widely displayed in the mainly Albanian districts of Cair and Saraj in Skopje.
A source from Trajanovski's electoral camp confided to BIRN that the party was well aware that it needed to court more Albanian votes.
"In last year's elections, ethnic Albanian votes boosted the SDSM. But in these local elections that will be hard to replicate, as everyone can see that Trajanovski is a hard-working mayor, so we expect many Albanian votes," the source, insisting on anonymity, said.
Previously, the party made few attempts to appeal to Albanians, who make up about a quarter of the population, concentrated in the north and west of the country.
They also make up between 10 and 20 per cent of the population of Skopje – but these numbers are only approximate as no national census has taken place in years.
Even after its lost power nationally in May, VMRO DPMNE's leader, Nikola Gruevski, continued attacked a new proposed law allowing greater official use of the Albanian language. Gruevski insisted it would be unconstitutional and would undermine national unity.
However, while appearing on an Albanian-language TV station, Alsat, Gruevski earlier this month insisted that he had nothing against Albanians and vowed to work on improving the party's relations with the community.
Meanwhile, Trajanovski's strongest rival, Petre Silegov, from the SDSM, has an advantage when it comes to courting Albanian votes in the capital.
This party has a far better standing among Albanians thanks to its more "civic" approach. In the last general election, the SDSM won at least 40,000 Albanian votes, which was unprecedented for a mainly ethnic Macedonian party.
For the municipal vote, the SDSM has already secured the support in Skopje of the country's strongest ethnic Albanian party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI.
The DUI switched sides nationally in May, abandoning its coalition alliance with VMRO DPMNE and forging a new majority in parliament, which brought the SDSM to power.
In return for its support in Skopje, the SDSM has agreed to support DUI candidates in several mainly Albanian municipalities, such as Tetovo, Gostivar and Debar.
"We will build Skopje together, and for everyone, just as we have started building Macedonia," Silegov told ethnic Albanian residents of Saraj, near Skopje on Sunday, asking for their support.
Skopje political Analyst Albert Musliu said the noticeably milder nationalistic rhetoric in this election reflected the very different nature of national and local elections – in which different parties must cooperate to win in ethnically mixed areas.
"In many specific municipalities, one or the other ethnic community needs the votes of the others [to win the election]," Musliu noted.
For the purpose of the local elections, Macedonia is divided into 81 municipalities. The prize is, of course, Skopje, which is home to a third of Macedonia's population of about 2 million.
A total of eight mayoral candidates are standing in Skopje but Trajanovski and Silegov are the front runner, backed by the two main parties in the ethnic Macedonian political camp.
The election campaign started on September 25. It closes on October 13 when an electoral silence descends until polling day On October 15
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All those loyal DPMNE supporters claiming they will save the country from the current prediciment are in for a heart-attack. The flood gates for what's happening now were opened years agoOriginally posted by Niko777 View PostDPMNE has started posting billboards for the local elections in Skopje in the Albanian language

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DPMNE has started posting billboards for the local elections in Skopje in the Albanian language
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostYou know what, I don't want it here in Australia, but over there I think biometric ID cards and cameras with facial recognition. The Chinese know where 1.4 billion of them are at any time just by scanning and comparing through their databases and meanwhile Macedonia has goats voting for Albanian rights. It can be done. It's such a small country.
Well Zajko is an expert at accessing ID Cards...I don't think there'd be an issue
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You know what, I don't want it here in Australia, but over there I think biometric ID cards and cameras with facial recognition. The Chinese know where 1.4 billion of them are at any time just by scanning and comparing through their databases and meanwhile Macedonia has goats voting for Albanian rights. It can be done. It's such a small country.Originally posted by Odi Zvezdo View PostAgreed, but please inform me on how FYROM (they've lost too much respect to be
) can conduct a proper census?
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Agreed, but please inform me on how FYROM (they've lost too much respect to beOriginally posted by Risto the Great View PostYou even had the EU telling the ethnic Albanians how retarded their (Albanian) logic was for the data gathering process.
I doubt it will be totally true and fair, but still think it is needed.
) can conduct a proper census?
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You even had the EU telling the ethnic Albanians how retarded their (Albanian) logic was for the data gathering process.Originally posted by Odi Zvezdo View PostWith SDS in power and an American running the show...do you think the census would be true and fair as per previous attempts???
I doubt it will be totally true and fair, but still think it is needed.
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When has the census ever been truly reflective of the population?Originally posted by Odi Zvezdo View PostWith SDS in power and an American running the show...do you think the census would be true and fair as per previous attempts???
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With SDS in power and an American running the show...do you think the census would be true and fair as per previous attempts???Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostActually, I thought that after I posted. But still think a census is the real priority.
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Actually, I thought that after I posted. But still think a census is the real priority.
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This article is a bit misleading. Temelko is a Macedonian and he is accused of busing in Macedonians from Albania to vote for DPMNE.
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Albanian mayor arrested in Macedonia vote-fraud probe
One word ... CENSUSBy Associated Press September 27
SKOPJE, Macedonia — Authorities in Macedonia have arrested and detained the mayor of a small town in neighboring Albania on suspicion of vote fraud during Macedonia’s local government elections in 2013.
The arrest Wednesday was the latest move in a crackdown under the country’s four-month-old Socialist government against senior officials and their allies in previous conservative administrations for alleged corruption.
A special prosecutor charged Edmond Temelko, mayor of the small border town of Pustec, on suspicion of organizing the transfer of several hundred Albanians allegedly supplied with false identity cards to vote in Macedonia.
At a court appearance, Temelko denied the allegations.
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