Eurovision

[ProMKD]

I think some people here (Brian and Komita) have some rather extreme views that i dont agree with. I believe if you marry some one who is not a macedonian it does not make you any less of a macedonian or your children. Dont get me wrong it would be "ideal" for a macedonian to marry a macedonian, but i guess if you live in a multi-cultural palce like Australia there is a high chance you will be attracted to a non-macedonian. I have met a few macedonians who are half australian, filipino etc and they are proud of being macedonian and even know a bit of the language.

However my main issue is with macedonians marrying serbs,grks, bulgars, and now shiptars.

I can't speak for them directly, but I think that's what the outrage here is about: dating a shiptar, not someone non-Macedonian. I started this thread, and that's what my opinion is.

[Brian]

By the way, the oldest son is married to a greek woman
and it always makes me laughing how she looks at me when
I am talking with him in macedonian.

Revolt? - like a bad fart in the room? or like you casually just sad, "Me and Satan were having drinks the other day..."LOL. I know what you mean.

[Bill77]

the children of our neighbours (father is from serbia, cacak, mother
is macedonian from skopje) feel only serbian!
they wear always clothes with the serbian flag on it and ae proud serbs.
how funny that they donīt speak serbian, but only macedonian.
I asked them why they donīt wear clothes with the macedonian flag,
but they couldnīt answer me.
By the way, the oldest son is married to a greek woman
and it always makes me laughing how she looks at me when
I am talking with him in macedonian.

Its often the case, what ever the father is, the children follow. That's unless the woman wears the pants.

[MKPrilep]

the children of our neighbours (father is from serbia, cacak, mother
is macedonian from skopje) feel only serbian!
they wear always clothes with the serbian flag on it and ae proud serbs.
how funny that they donīt speak serbian, but only macedonian.
I asked them why they donīt wear clothes with the macedonian flag,
but they couldnīt answer me.
By the way, the oldest son is married to a greek woman
and it always makes me laughing how she looks at me when
I am talking with him in macedonian.

[Phoenix]

yes she was a brunette back then which is probably why i didn't recognise her. or because she's irrelevant. whatever.

hey all, let's just be glad she's not a carpet muncher. surely that would be far worse.

...carpet curious would be an interesting prospect...

Bij do you prefer your carpet, plush or shag pile...?

[Big Bad Sven]

I think some people here (Brian and Komita) have some rather extreme views that i dont agree with. I believe if you marry some one who is not a macedonian it does not make you any less of a macedonian or your children. Dont get me wrong it would be "ideal" for a macedonian to marry a macedonian, but i guess if you live in a multi-cultural palce like Australia there is a high chance you will be attracted to a non-macedonian. I have met a few macedonians who are half australian, filipino etc and they are proud of being macedonian and even know a bit of the language.

However my main issue is with macedonians marrying serbs,grks, bulgars, and now shiptars.

I have never heard or seen a macedonian get married to a muslim shiptar from macedonia, but i would assume the relationship will go the way of what i have seen with macedonians who marry serbs or grks. From what i have seen from these relationships, the children often feel more patriotic towards being a serb or greek, rather then macedonian. Some times these children outright deny or say they feel "ashamed" of being macedonian. I would imagine it would be the same if a macedonian married a shiptar as the shipatars from macedonia are extremely nationalistic, even more so then serbs or grks. I get the impression the serb or grk would be more dominant in these relationships while the macedonian is always more laid back.
In the end i could never really understand why a macedonian would ever get married to one of macedonians neighboring people - it would be too much hard work and there it no respect towards macedonian people.

In the end i dont really care about this girl, she isnt even a macedonian (more of a yugoslav if you ask me) and she seems like another lost and confused "celebrity".

[Risto the Great]

As long as it is a Macedonian carpet, I would imagine it would appease some here.

[Bij]

Yes, I totally forgot about that, 2008 Eurovision with Vrcak and Adrian Gadza.

yes she was a brunette back then which is probably why i didn't recognise her. or because she's irrelevant. whatever.

hey all, let's just be glad she's not a carpet muncher. surely that would be far worse.

[United MKD]

from eurovision? where she performed with the albanian?

Yes, I totally forgot about that, 2008 Eurovision with Vrcak and Adrian Gadza.

[Bij]

She's a singer, she has been Australia twice as far as I remember. 2009 she was here with Lambe and Elena Risteska.

from eurovision? where she performed with the albanian?

a few questions

1. why does anyone care?

2. is anyone surprised?

3. what difference does it make to anyones lives?

[United MKD]

She's a singer, she has been Australia twice as far as I remember. 2009 she was here with Lambe and Elena Risteska.

[Bij]

who is this broad anyway?

[Risto the Great]

Did you sack Prolet or just 'run him out of town'?

No, I suspect he is the DPmNE diaspora representative right now if you want my honest opinion. He is welcome to come back and amuse us any time.

[Risto the Great]

Interesting point for the Diaspora Macedonians.
Would you say marriage between say an Australian born Macedonian and someone from Macedonia is "easier" than marrying some other Australian born person of another ethnicity?

[vojnik]

I can give you an equal number of marriages that have went well between two ethnically different people. The name of this thread, the thread itself and your views brian are disrespectful go back to the stone age mate