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[Silver]

Our past is our past, the future is the future. Leave the songs and stories they way they are. They were told for a reason to say who we are. One thing we should never be accused of is being revisionists or hiding the truth. The truth has always put us morally above our ultra-nationalist tormentors.

[Simply Macedonian]

Good night Julie, and sorry if I offended you.

[Bij]

Ilinden is the day we celebrate our revolt against the ottoman empire, yet it makes you sick to hear anti turkish songs?

don't forget where we came from when you look at where we're going.

[Risto the Great]

Just because people don't agree with me it doesn't mean I'm wrong. I may be wrong and I may be right.. Everyone has their opinion. If the strategic relationship Macedonia-Turkey means nothing to you there's nothing I can say. No I am Macedonian..do koskite.
And again, i repeat my assertion..that if the Greeks had Turkey as their best ally now defending their territorial integrity in a vocal manner, with the same occupation history of the Ottoman Empire..they would not sing songs with anti-Turkish messages in them. I guarantee you that. Maybe not change the words in the songs..but let's refrain from singing them. That is my view. It may seem like a radical view in the consciousness of the typical Macedonian, but I honestly believe it is the correct thing.

SM, you have an alternative view. Good luck to you. It is the view of a very small minority. Right or wrong, it represents a crushing slap in the face to our ancestors. You do not seem to speak of the ongoing Turkish support of the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia. You fail to grasp the difference between Ottoman era Turks and the modern Turks. Turkish peasants in Ottoman times were prepared to revolt in some instances. The regime was oppressive and should never be forgotten. Plain and simple.

[Bill77]

SM, if it makes you feel any better, strangely enough, there are few songs where a Macedonian girl falls in love with a Turchin. Mabe you can play them over and over.

I must say i like your idea of having Grci or Bugari in the lirics of our songs. But rather than changing history, how about you or we encourage our current musicions, to stop writing shit about tri kila banani, and come up with songs that the future generations can remember what is hapening today.

[Risto the Great]

Bill, I totally agree.
Why don't we write a song?

One name
That binds us all
From Belomorska to Pirinska to our Fatherland
Macedonia
Nobody takes it away from us

There, that is the first verse or chorus or something .

Royalties to the MTO thanks.

[julie]

iron maiden - Alexander the Great in macedonian.

[Bij]

isn't that what biser balkanski is all about? LOL

[Bill77]

Risto, i came up with one. lol

Just use these words to the music of "tri kila banani"

mene ni se koli mene mi se koli
mene mi se koli zajeban grkoman

tri iljadi shiptari
mene mis se jade nane nane ........

[Rogi]

julie, Iron Maidon's song suggests he was Greek though. He says Macedonia was a part of ancient Greece.

[Orovnichanec]

Just because people don't agree with me it doesn't mean I'm wrong. I may be wrong and I may be right.. Everyone has their opinion. If the strategic relationship Macedonia-Turkey means nothing to you there's nothing I can say. No I am Macedonian..do koskite.
And again, i repeat my assertion..that if the Greeks had Turkey as their best ally now defending their territorial integrity in a vocal manner, with the same occupation history of the Ottoman Empire..they would not sing songs with anti-Turkish messages in them. I guarantee you that. Maybe not change the words in the songs..but let's refrain from singing them. That is my view. It may seem like a radical view in the consciousness of the typical Macedonian, but I honestly believe it is the correct thing.

No you are wrong. You want to change history because of present situations, you essentially want to forget what our ancestors fought for. Do you believe that the Turks don't ever sing or talk about the Ottoman Empire?

[sf.]

"Daj zapali pasosh mome,
Jas sum shengenovec."