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[MP_MK]

http://www.kanal5.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=37&eventId=57525&egId=13

Протест за антимакедонската кампања во Австралија
Македонската амбасада во Канбера ќе упати писмен протест до Владата на федералната држава Јужна Австралија по објавените видео- снимки од говорот на премиерот Мајк Ранон во кој ја обвинува Македонија за крадење на грчката историја. Припадниците на македонската заедница во Австралија реагираат и на обвинувањата против македонскиот претседател Иванов, кој според лобистот на грчката заедница величел македонска култура, различна од грчката со што предизвикал опасни инциденти.

- Повторно го имаме лидерот господин Иванов кој предизвикува проблеми на најопасен начин. Тој го смени името на аеродромот во Александар Велики, автопатот го преименува во Александар Велики . Во словенските делови повторно се мешаат работите како во почетокот на деведесеттите поради политички причини, вели Ранон.

По дипломатскиот инцидент предизвикан од Ранон претставници на Обединетата македонска дијаспора со седиште во Вашингтон се сретнаа со австралискиот министер за култура, а остар протест е упатен и до Ранон кој изјави дека Македонците во Австралија и претседателот Иванов немаат право да ја крадат туѓата историја и култура. Во говорот Ранон им се обраќа на Австралијците со грчко потекло на кои им ветува дека останува цврст во одбраната на грчката кауза. Во изјава за австралиските медиуми Ранон вели дека нема да биде замолчен и дека ќе продолжи да зборува за работи во кои што верува. По дипломатскиот скандал австралиските медиуми објавуваат дека Ранон е инволвиран во секс- скандал со келнерка во австралискиот Парламент.

[MP_MK]

If Anyone has time to translate, would be good. Google translator is not doing a great job.

[Bratot]

Dude... wouldn't be wiser to open one single thread with this subject and post the sources instead of spamming in couple of threads?

Btw they all quote The Australian newspaper on this issue, nothing spectacular to be translated.

[MP_MK]

Dude... wouldn't be wiser to open one single thread with this subject and post the sources instead of spamming in couple of threads?

Btw they all quote The Australian newspaper on this issue, nothing spectacular to be translated.

Dude... Each article release to date has had it's own thread, I am keeping it consistent.

You are missing the point. The point is (putting aside content) that the MK media are begining to circulate it, this is key.

[Bratot]

Ya... and I wonder why.

[Rogi]

I think it is imperative to mention the AMHRC's intention to proceed with formal legal action against South Australia's Premier.

This adds considerable strength to the arguments being put forward and without that legal angle, all the media releases will be dismissed.

[Soldier of Macedon]

The point is (putting aside content) that the MK media are begining to circulate it, this is key.

Are only now beginning to circulate it, about 2 months after the fact. If this was brought to the attention of somebody else and they had posted it up on the MTO in December or January, what then? Would you still have appeared here with your 'connections' and suggestions?

The one good thing here is, yes, they are finally writing articles about this racist Rann in Macedonia, and exposing him for the trash that he is.

[MP_MK]

I think it is imperative to mention the AMHRC's intention to proceed with formal legal action against South Australia's Premier.

This adds considerable strength to the arguments being put forward and without that legal angle, all the media releases will be dismissed.

I agree

All media, were given official overvews and an official statement from AMHRC.

You know what the MK media is like, they like to do things there way...

[MP_MK]

Are only now beginning to circulate it, about 2 months after the fact. If this was brought to the attention of somebody else and they had posted it up on the MTO in December or January, what then? Would you still have appeared here with your 'connections' and suggestions?

The one good thing here is, yes, they are finally writing articles about this racist Rann in Macedonia, and exposing him for the trash that he is.

SOM, I refer you to my reply from the other thread:


No. I did not claim it was my strategy to supress the dvd. BUT I believe and gave reasoning that the timing of year / current events at the time (natural disaster / Indian race out cry / christmas / new years / natural disaster again / ranns affair) would have ALL over shadowed it.

I was trying to take the spotlight off a stupid decision by RTGs community, so that we can foucs on what can be done now (If I was a destructive person, I would have used this opportunity to make the other community look bad, but I am not).

When I received the video, I circulated it amongst key individuals (the highest on an Australian Macedonian official front) and expected them to orchestrate a plan of attack and implement a strategy to bring this to the spot light. 4 weeks later I directly asked what had been done and the reply I received was "what are the Adelaide community going to do about it" ....I was shocked and felt that I was in a position to implement a strategy. I put aside my already hecitic schedule, postponed a business trip, called upon my national and international contacts and then hit the ground running with it just a few days ago. .....Had nothing to do with UMD visiting.

I haven't got much time today to focus on these things and engage in long debates, there is too much work to do today, the iron is hot.

let's move on.

[julie]

SOM, I refer you to my reply from the other thread:


No. I did not claim it was my strategy to supress the dvd. BUT I believe and gave reasoning that the timing of year / current events at the time (natural disaster / Indian race out cry / christmas / new years / natural disaster again / ranns affair) would have ALL over shadowed it.

I was trying to take the spotlight off a stupid decision by RTGs community, so that we can foucs on what can be done now (If I was a destructive person, I would have used this opportunity to make the other community look bad, but I am not).
When I received the video, I circulated it amongst key individuals (the highest on an Australian Macedonian official front) and expected them to orchestrate a plan of attack and implement a strategy to bring this to the spot light. 4 weeks later I directly asked what had been done and the reply I received was "what are the Adelaide community going to do about it" ....I was shocked and felt that I was in a position to implement a strategy. I put aside my already hecitic schedule, postponed a business trip, called upon my national and international contacts and then hit the ground running with it just a few days ago. .....Had nothing to do with UMD visiting.

I haven't got much time today to focus on these things and engage in long debates, there is too much work to do today, the iron is hot.

let's move on.

I dont understand that comment, and I resent the put down on the ""other"""" my Macedonian Community in Adelaide.
I acknowledge what you are doing, however, maybe you should put your ego aside.

[Soldier of Macedon]

I think it is imperative to mention the AMHRC's intention to proceed with formal legal action against South Australia's Premier.

This adds considerable strength to the arguments being put forward and without that legal angle, all the media releases will be dismissed.

But they aren't mentioned in this one.

UMD and the man 'from washington' is mentioned in every one of these articles, isn't he? It's starting to look more and more like the release of information concerning the racist Rann was 'held back' until the UMD 'tour'. Now, rather than the Macedonians in Australia who are taking legal action, making statements, etc being the one's noted as leading this issue in Australia, we have the UMD being basically glorified in each article.

[MP_MK]

But they aren't mentioned in this one.

UMD and the man 'from washington' is mentioned in every one of these articles, isn't he? It's starting to look more and more like the release of information concerning the racist Rann was 'held back' until the UMD 'tour'. Now, rather than the Macedonians in Australia who are taking legal action, making statements, etc being the one's noted as leading this issue in Australia, we have the UMD being basically glorified in each article.

I agree, you are right, it does look like that.

To the best of my knowledge every contact (and certainly every media person I have had contact with) have been given both AMHRC & UMD contacts, plus AMHRC official statement on the matter.

More articles to come.

[Buktop]

Are only now beginning to circulate it, about 2 months after the fact. If this was brought to the attention of somebody else and they had posted it up on the MTO in December or January, what then? Would you still have appeared here with your 'connections' and suggestions?

The one good thing here is, yes, they are finally writing articles about this racist Rann in Macedonia, and exposing him for the trash that he is.

SoM, why didn't any of the Macedonian organizations pick up on Rann's statements in December? Shouldn't the Macedonian Org's of Australia be constantly looking for these sorts of statements?

The people who actually are doing something about it now should not be attacked, it is a failure of the Macedonian Org's for not catching it, especially when it is their job to catch and address it.

[Risto the Great]

Buktop, I gave the pitiful reason why the local community did not pick this up and go with this matter 2 months ago. The actual video footage was only circulated a couple of days ago (from the local Macedonian community), I would suggest my local community was retarded and I would suggest the other people were slow for different (and no more spectacular) reasons. I will do more than suggest that being slow was no good for anybody.

I thank the AMHRC for pouncing on it as soon as they were made aware.

[MP_MK]

I dont understand that comment, and I resent the put down on the ""other"""" my Macedonian Community in Adelaide.
I acknowledge what you are doing, however, maybe you should put your ego aside.

Members from your community have already made comments outlining their disbelief on the way this issue and video was handled by members of your community.

EGO?
I stood in the firing line to take some blame on the matter, none of which was my fault in no way shape or form,

i.e: I (a member of the opposite church) was willing to take the responsibility and did take it, for a bad error in judgement by a members of your community and I took the fall for it here on a public forum.

What more do you want?