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  • Prolet
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 5241

    #16
    Jankovska, Stram da im e sto se tolku bezobrazni, im not just throwing numbers around this is from a world ranking system that ranks every single country based on Corruption. These are reports from IMF,World Bank etc They have sources from international organization not something they make up themselves.

    Резултатите што Република Македонија ги оствари во 2009 година се меѓу најдобрите во Европа. Втор најнизок буџетски дефицит имаме во Европа, трет најмал пад на БДП и тука завршува приказната за успешноста или неуспешноста на една економска политика“, истакна Ставрески.
    МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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    • Jankovska
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1774

      #17
      Prolet once again numbers don't change things for me. Last year I went to Macedonia 5 times, that';s a alot for someone who doesn't live there. In those 5 times I didn't see any improvements, not in Kumanovo, not in Palanka, not in Strumica. Ok Global in Strumica:d Those numbers mean fuck all to me and the normal people of Macedonia. Until the situation changes where everyone and I mean everyone is treated like a human being with respect I will not trust numbers. I always trust what I see with my own eyes, no numbers or statistics can change that. I don't sit here talking made up shit, I always talk and say things I have seen or heard from people I know, I trust.

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      • Prolet
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 5241

        #18
        Jankovska, What about the IT Fakultet in Kriva Palanka??

        Kriva Palanka and Kumanovo certainly need to be looked at, Manastir Joakim Osogovski is something i want to see and i think they should remodel it and make it look like a World Class Manastir. Kumanovo has Kokino and Stanovec "The Hot Banji", Kriva Palanka has Joakim Osogovski these are fantastic places to see for tourists.

        Believe me Jankovska the wheel is turning slowly, nothing can be done over night.
        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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        • Jankovska
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1774

          #19
          Joakim Osogovski is a wonderful place, beautiful. I went to Kokino in March, it was amazing but again, signs are not very good, no protection, nothing. All left there.
          Kumanovo and Palanka are lead by corrupt individuals and things will not change.

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          • Prolet
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 5241

            #20
            Jankovska, Ive been to Jovan Bigorski a fair few times and i like that Manastir alot, whats Joakim Osogovski like??

            Here is a nice song that you'll like about Stari Kraj

            YouTube - Makedonska Siromastija
            МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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            • Jankovska
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1774

              #21
              haha great song. She is probably the prettiest woman in the world.
              Anyway I am from Palanka so to me Joakim Osogovski is the most beautiful manastir in the whole of Macedonia, actually no in the whole world.

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              • Prolet
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 5241

                #22
                Jankovska, The song is about the Siromashtija, its sung by a Gjuptin

                What else do you know about Joakim Osogovski?
                МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                • Jankovska
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1774

                  #23
                  It's lovely. First it;s in the woods, just a road cut through the woods that takes you there, about 10-15 min drive from the center of the town. It's so peaceful there and in summer is just amazing. The manastir I think it from like the 12th/13th century, old but looked after. I think in one of the wars one of the arch was broken off, looks like it but otherwise it stands undemaged. The place has a small church, Sv Bogorodica and it's tiny, real tiny. The manastir is next to it and it belongs to Sv Joakim Osogovski the saint. The actually building stands right on the edge of the little hill, feels like it;s about tip over at any time. It has another building which is for guests who visit the manastir and few others for different things. the biggest celebration is on the 28th of August, starts in the afternoon and is all the way till the end of day on the 29th. On the 28th we celebrate Bogorodica and on the 29th we celebrate Sv Joakim Osogovski. This is a two day all night celebration, with young people putting tents up in the woods and staying for days. I used to love it, man it was so much fun. Every year there are thousands of people, I think last year the approx was around 20 000 people. usually you need to stand for hours to be able to go to church, almost impossible. When we were kids we used to love going at night coz we felt like grown ups, we would dress up and buy lots of shit from the cigani selling crap toys. And the smell of mekici i pleskkavici is so strong that you feel hungry for the whole 2 days. There are people selling everything, bardinja, pepeljari, svirki. There is always candy floss, oh man I used to love it. My dad used to tell me it was ice cream for chidlren who didn't want to get ill
                  If you go on a normal day it's quite empty there but the view is breath taking. My english friend loved it so much she spend the night there in one of the rooms for tourists. On a sunday when the weather is nice all the young people from Palanka are there, sitting in the woods, chatting, having a picnic. It's a beautiful place and everyone should visit it. Great tresure

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                  • Prolet
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5241

                    #24
                    Wow Jankovska it seems like for every question i ask you come up with a past story, i've never been to the Manastir i'd surly like to visit. So Bogorodica is the main imenden there, i usually go to Leshok while im in Stari Kraj for Bogorodica, last year there was over 10,000 people easily and its a beautiful place. They mainly come from Skopje,Tetovo and Gostivar i saw a few people from other cities aswell who lived in Skopje. Im not sure what its like in Joakim Osogovski, but in Jovan Bigorski Men are not allowed to enter with shorts on and women cant go in if they dont wear a skirt, they have plenty of them around if you are not wearing them. I had to go back to the car and change because they wouldnt let me in with Shorts in the summer, this was before it burned down it was very sad indeed.

                    As for the English friends i agree, they love our natural beauties. Most countries can only dream about what we have, its a shame that we dont do a better job in looking after them and maintaining them.
                    МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                    • Big Bad Sven
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1528

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Prolet View Post

                      As for the English friends i agree, they love our natural beauties. Most countries can only dream about what we have, its a shame that we dont do a better job in looking after them and maintaining them.
                      Kind of like when Macedonians throw away their rubbish, cigarette buds etc in Lake Ohrid and in the lake side and rivers in Sv Naum?

                      The old stone bridge in Skopje has turned into a mini rubbish tip these days as well.

                      And they say the Gypsies are messy people…..

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                      • Prolet
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5241

                        #26
                        Jankovska, That Pretty Ciganka is from India her name is Aishwarya Rai she is pretty good no doubt about it.

                        BBS, Sto zborvas bre? Neka gibnat sega tamu, 50 evra kazna ke gi chesha kaj shto ne gi jadi.

                        The good thing about the statues now is that they will employ people to look after them, there will be chuvari around Ulica Makedonija,Stone Bridge, GTC

                        You will be surprised now the councils are cleaning up, units come around they mow lawns,clean up rubbish they do it twice a day once in the morning and once at night, i had to see it with my own eyes to believe it. And if the Snow is not cleaned up on time the Municipalities get fined by the Government. They are cleaning up the Vardar River,Ohridsko Ezero they found bombs and mines from WW2 near the Peshtani region.

                        Poleka lichime na neshto.
                        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                        • Bill77
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4545

                          #27
                          Has any one been to my village?

                          moj roden kraj rajska gradina,
                          teshka je so tebe,
                          mojta razdelba.







                          sory Jankovska, i don't mean any disrespect towards your thread. I hope now and then i can put smiles on peoples faces.
                          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15661

                            #28
                            Sorry Bill, I have never been to that village.
                            But my new rock band "The Pitch Keys" have a gig coming up over there next year.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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