Albanians in Greece

[tchaiku]

Doric colonies of Sicily and their roots.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Magna_Graecia_ancient_colonies_and_dialects-en.svg

Syracuse -> Corinth
Casmenai -> Syracuse -> Corinth
Kamarina -> Syracuse -> Corinth
Megara Hyblaea -> Megara
Selinunte -> Megara Hyblaea -> Megara
Heraclea Minoa -> Not known.
Gela -> Rhodes and Crete
Akragas -> Gela -> Rhodes and Crete

Ionic colonies of Sicily:
Zancle -> Euboea
Himaera -> Zancle -> Euboea
Calacte -> Zancle -> Euboea
Naxos -> Euboea
Catania -> Euboea
Leoniti -> Naxos -> Euboea

Most colonies of Sicily seem to come from regions with a largely Albanian-speaking population in 18th century. (Corinthia and Euboea)

[tchaiku]

There is no ethnic continuity between the Ionians of Euboea, Pontus and Attica and the descendants of the modern Atticans, Euboeans and Pontian.

And that's a fact.

[tchaiku]

The figure I used (the 1890 one) does not come from Lithoxoou but from a Western traveller.
I seriously doubt if there were less than 1600 Arvanites in Euboea in 1951 though but it doesn't matter.

[Amphipolis]

Providing text in pictures must be the new trend. What she says... in the last three pictures is also false; see my numbers in previous links and Lithoxoou estimations and full catalogue of alleged Arvanite villages.

Euboea had 160,000 people by 1951, 8 towns and 150 villages and about 0,9% of people with Arvanite mother language. A modern estimation could start by contacting Arvanite clubs and activists of the area.

[Carlin]

Maria Efthimiou, Greek Historian

[tchaiku]

GAVALA - Remained Albanian speaking till at least 1907

Yorgi Gavala, Nikola veled-i 0, Ivreto hem veled-i o, Evrenos Glavala, Nikola veled-i o, Martin Varbob, Kozma Koc, Gika, Mek§a Gika,Nikola Gika, Gika birader-i Martin, Mihal Gika,Gin Karavana,Kaloti Krieziya,Domenika Krieziya, Yorgi Barci, Leka Karavana, Gin Karavana, Nikola Kuc, Palomeno Melisato, Luci Kalanci, Istefan Krieziya, Nikola Melisato, Martin Krieziya

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gavalas+345+00,+Greece/@38.4510996,24.0812553,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x14a15ee63bbb57cd:0xf366b493ffe14743!8m2!3d38.451701!4d24.0846684

We can use some of these names in southern villages to detect the Arvanites in northern zones.
The estimates for the Christian Albanian population of Euboea in 1890 was 25,000 of 75,000 so around 1/3, all from the south.
Can someone explain why the inhabitants of villages in northern Euboea like Ayos were carring typical Albanian names like Gjin Muzaka? Even when Orthodox Christian Albanians (and Jews and Gypsies) carried Greek names like Aksenopulu.

[Carlin]

Mother Language in Euboea in 1951 census

Total 164,542
Greek 162,292
Albanian 1,480
Turkish 659
Armenian 24
Gypsy 17
Vlach 12

You have demonstrated rather effectively how the process of Self-Hellenization and the process of creation of modern Greece resulted in these figures.

[tchaiku]

"And if one considers that before and during these events there was a time when there were less than 150,000 people in the whole of the Peloponnese, one can easily comprehend how limited the knowledge of the philosopher Plethon in the fifteenth century was, who refused to accept any substantial alteration in the population of the Peloponnese. The same is can be said of his successors in the present day, at least in this part of the world."

[Amphipolis]

Mother Language in Euboea in 1951 census

Total 164,542
Greek 162,292
Albanian 1,480
Turkish 659
Armenian 24
Gypsy 17
Vlach 12

[Carlin]

Some writers have written about the Vlachs of northern Euboea, in Istiaia, including Yanis Kordatos. (There were Vlach villages both in the central and northern Euboea and in Kymi-Aliveri area, which abandonded the Vlach language in the early 19th century.)

During the 19th century, central and northern Euboea were land estates of the great Metsovite benefactors Averoff and Stournaras. The tomb of the founder of the National Technical University of Athens, Stournaras, is located in the cemetery of Chalkida (the chief town of the island of Euboea).

The majestic church of Agios Nikolaos in Chalkida was founded with donations from the Metsovite brothers Varatasi, while the metropolitan church of Agia Paraskevi is known as "Agia Paraskevi i Vlacha" ("Αγία Παρασκευή η Βλάχα").



A. N. Chrysologis has written of Vlach villages on the side of Psachna as well as on the side of the Aegean, Dirfi (a mountain in the central part of the island of Euboea), known as Vlach villages "Skanales". According to the following article from Kathimerini, from 2014, a rare person from Steni Dirfyos village (seemingly a native, as far as I can guess), opens up and says: "I have learned to tell the truth, my girl. I am a Vlach ... A Vlach is not the one who has sheep, the Vlachs are an ancient race ... "

Link to article here:

https://www.kathimerini.gr/755090/article/ta3idia/sthn-ellada/stenh-eyvoias-mia-anasa-apo-thn-a8hna

FYI: According to Bernard Randolph, 1687, the Christian population of Euboea was in his day almost entirely Albanian.

[tchaiku]

The entire Venetian population of the castle (of the city of Chalkida, which was surrounded by walls) was destroyed, while the Greeks were sent as slaves to Constantinople. The castle was inhabited by Ottomans and about two hundred Jews.

https://eviaportal.gr/i-ebraikh-koinotita-tis-chalkidas/

Was Chalcis only Turkish and Jewish? It is hard to tell.

None but Turks and Jews live within the Calstle, where are very spacious houses, and four which deserve the name of Seraglios; One for the Basha, at the right hand coming into the Castle from the Port; One for his Lievetenant or Ki∣ahja; a Third belonging to Ibrahim Aga's Son (of whose Father we will speak anon and the Fourth, to Muzlee Aga; Which are very richly set out with carved work and painting.

[tchaiku]

So you mean the title and subject is "Albanians in Euboea"? That's... interesting. I'll think of contributing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euboea

Note: Euboea doesn't have an entry in Albanian wikipedia.

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Ask the mod to edit it, if it bothers you so much. Even though the bulk of population around 2/3 to 3/4 comes from Albanian settlers they are not the only ones to have left marks in the island. Carlin mentioned Vlachs.


Slavic (pre-Albanian) placenames in your face:

http://www.promacedonia.org/en/mv/mv_3_6.htm

[tchaiku]

In 1830, when the Bavarians ruled in Athens, the officials were obliged to know Albanian, and there was an Albanian court to try cases in the language.

https://books.google.com/books?id=tMVZAAAAYAAJ&q=1830,+when+the+Bavarians+ruled+in+Athens,+the+officials+were+obliged+to+know+Albanian,+and+there+was+an+Albanian+court+to&dq=1830,+when+the+Bavarians+ruled+in+Athens,+the+officials+were+obliged+to+know+Albanian,+and+there+was+an+Albanian+court+to&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipmtmR-_roAhXzThUIHWk7BDIQ6AEIIzAA

[tchaiku]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Skepasti+340+05,+Greece/@38.8263348,23.3429689,14z/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x14a0d506aac0bc9f:0x66f27d13c5090416

[Amphipolis]

The assimilation of Albanians, Vlachs, Slavs and others into Greeks.
This thread is about Albanians in Euboea in particular this is how it is related in this forum.

So you mean the title and subject is "Albanians in Euboea"? That's... interesting. I'll think of contributing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euboea

Note: Euboea doesn't have an entry in Albanian wikipedia.

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