Greece, History, Truth

[Soldier of Macedon]

Evans was an anti-Macedonian bigot who was as deceptive as the regular Greek racist.

[Bratot]

On the question of 'truth' and the capacity for the New Greek to tell lies there were a number of contemporaries who had observed the ability of the New Greek to lie about the Macedonian demographic.

A contemporary had caught onto the deception at the turn of last century.

Mr. Authur J. Evans, noted in 1903 that:

It was not the first time that English diplomats, officials and gentleman, who were for the most part fervent philhellenes had to comment on the deceiving qualities of the New Greeks in terms of colonial aspirations, and conquest.

I would suggest to be more deliberated when you cite Evans.

http://books.google.pl/books?id=4s_uEVUk1q4C&pg=PA190&lpg=PA190&dq=It+is+an+unpleasant+duty+to+have+to+tell+ones+friend%E2%80%99s+home+truths,+but+the+Greek+claim+to+Macedonia,+at+least+the+greater+part+of+the+country,+is+a+dream...the+statistics+rest+on+an+artificial+basis.&source=bl&ots=ucCgyAoKIX&sig=14alJgM2CLr2PapZmck8qbl2FLw&hl=pl&ei=N-qRTMTsEpCs4AbUyeyQBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

[Soldier of Macedon]

What a waste, another stupid moron from 10,000 BC.

Where are the normal Greeks in this world? Where are the other Spartans?? No kidding, were it not for some of my close Greek friends, I would give up all hope on Greeks. It is largely because of them that I believe not all of them are a pack of racist idiots.

[makedonche]

Spot on makedonche.
If he called him self "The Real_Truth" then i would be warried.

Greek Truth???? hmmmmmm an Ostrich buries its head in the sand when it wants to hide from something thinking if he can't see it, then the others can't see him ither.
Now we know how ridiculous the Ostrich is and the truth is he can be seen clearly.

But to give the Ostrich some credit, there are some more ridiculous than it, check post 94 and you will see what i mean.

Bill
So true! Not only that but the ostrich is better looking than most of them!

[sf.]

YouTube - DINAH SHORE - 'Doin' What Comes Natur'lly' - 1946 78rpm

I totally agree!

[Bill77]

Greek_Truth
Now theres a contradiction in terms - the use of the word Greek and Truth in the same sentence!

Spot on makedonche.
If he called him self "The Real_Truth" then i would be warried.

Greek Truth???? hmmmmmm an Ostrich buries its head in the sand when it wants to hide from something thinking if he can't see it, then the others can't see him ither.
Now we know how ridiculous the Ostrich is and the truth is he can be seen clearly.

But to give the Ostrich some credit, there are some more ridiculous than it, check post 94 and you will see what i mean.

[makedonche]

Whatever you say whatever you think greek people live there you live know since 10000 years ago. Turks wanted Izmir they took it,also the half Cyprus. Albanians want the half Epirus.You want the half Macedonia. Now? All these years of greek culture and you telling us now that you are Macedonians? From the ancient years? And for what Macedonian language you speak? The letter isn't greek.You must know that Alexander was born in Greece. He was talking greek and his mother was from Epirus (a greek ancient nation) also a greek was his father. He never spoke your slavish language. All these things you say all the time, is a propaganda from your politicians who have Americans behind them (and they want to make war with us to buy guns, and also they don't know about the greek history) and 1991 was the first time you wrote that our macedonian is yours. You try to proove that you are people, who no one cares about you and you are so unhappy and want your piece of your "land" back. Read some ancient books (greek books not your fake books). So come and get it if you want. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.

Greek_Truth
Now theres a contradiction in terms - the use of the word Greek and Truth in the same sentence! I just wanted to thank you for coming on to the forum and proving what I said 2 posts earlier! Thank you for your post it proves the first part of my statement - "Liars", very nicely!

[Makedonetz]

Man where's Dimko and his appropiate avatar pic for an occasion as this!

[julie]

Whatever you say whatever you think greek people live there you live know since 10000 years ago. Turks wanted Izmir they took it,also the half Cyprus. Albanians want the half Epirus.You want the half Macedonia. Now? All these years of greek culture and you telling us now that you are Macedonians? From the ancient years? And for what Macedonian language you speak? The letter isn't greek.You must know that Alexander was born in Greece. He was talking greek and his mother was from Epirus (a greek ancient nation) also a greek was his father. He never spoke your slavish language. All these things you say all the time, is a propaganda from your politicians who have Americans behind them (and they want to make war with us to buy guns, and also they don't know about the greek history) and 1991 was the first time you wrote that our macedonian is yours. You try to proove that you are people, who no one cares about you and you are so unhappy and want your piece of your "land" back. Read some ancient books (greek books not your fake books). So come and get it if you want. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.

You are SO funny, what drugs are you on you stupid "hellene" ah ha ha ha ha ha

[TrueMacedonian]

Whatever you say whatever you think greek people live there you live know since 10000 years ago. Turks wanted Izmir they took it,also the half Cyprus. Albanians want the half Epirus.You want the half Macedonia. Now? All these years of greek culture and you telling us now that you are Macedonians? From the ancient years? And for what Macedonian language you speak? The letter isn't greek.You must know that Alexander was born in Greece. He was talking greek and his mother was from Epirus (a greek ancient nation) also a greek was his father. He never spoke your slavish language. All these things you say all the time, is a propaganda from your politicians who have Americans behind them (and they want to make war with us to buy guns, and also they don't know about the greek history) and 1991 was the first time you wrote that our macedonian is yours. You try to proove that you are people, who no one cares about you and you are so unhappy and want your piece of your "land" back. Read some ancient books (greek books not your fake books). So come and get it if you want. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.

Admins please don't ban this one yet. He will give us some ood laughs lol.

[Greek_Truth]

Macedonian is greek

Whatever you say whatever you think greek people live there you live know since 10000 years ago. Turks wanted Izmir they took it,also the half Cyprus. Albanians want the half Epirus.You want the half Macedonia. Now? All these years of greek culture and you telling us now that you are Macedonians? From the ancient years? And for what Macedonian language you speak? The letter isn't greek.You must know that Alexander was born in Greece. He was talking greek and his mother was from Epirus (a greek ancient nation) also a greek was his father. He never spoke your slavish language. All these things you say all the time, is a propaganda from your politicians who have Americans behind them (and they want to make war with us to buy guns, and also they don't know about the greek history) and 1991 was the first time you wrote that our macedonian is yours. You try to proove that you are people, who no one cares about you and you are so unhappy and want your piece of your "land" back. Read some ancient books (greek books not your fake books). So come and get it if you want. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.

[George S.]

The greeks are a bunch of lying & thieving bastards.We should reveal the truth to the whole world so that the world doesn't give their support to them but to the macedonians.

[makedonche]

On the question of 'truth' and the capacity for the New Greek to tell lies there were a number of contemporaries who had observed the ability of the New Greek to lie about the Macedonian demographic.

A contemporary had caught onto the deception at the turn of last century.

Mr. Authur J. Evans, noted in 1903 that:


It was not the first time that English diplomats, officials and gentleman, who were for the most part fervent philhellenes had to comment on the deceiving qualities of the New Greeks in terms of colonial aspirations, and conquest.

Other British ministers had observed the same practices of the New Greeks, who they believed had deliberately published falsehoods about the regions demographic. Sir G. Campbell had said in January 26, 1877, that:

Pelister
Haven't we ben saying this all along! The most prominent qualities of the Greeks - "Liars" & "Thieves". It is our duty as promulgators of the "truth" to ensure that history defines the Greeks for what they truly were,are and probably will be - liars and thieves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pelister]

On the question of 'truth' and the capacity for the New Greek to tell lies there were a number of contemporaries who had observed the ability of the New Greek to lie about the Macedonian demographic.

A contemporary had caught onto the deception at the turn of last century.

Mr. Authur J. Evans, noted in 1903 that:

It is an unpleasant duty to have to tell ones friend’s home truths, but the Greek claim to Macedonia, at least the greater part of the country, is a dream...the statistics rest on an artificial basis.

It was not the first time that English diplomats, officials and gentleman, who were for the most part fervent philhellenes had to comment on the deceiving qualities of the New Greeks in terms of colonial aspirations, and conquest.

Other British ministers had observed the same practices of the New Greeks, who they believed had deliberately published falsehoods about the regions demographic. Sir G. Campbell had said in January 26, 1877, that:

The Greeks publish unblushing falsehoods, trusting to our ignorance. I cannot answer for the correctness of my ethnological map in every particular, but this I can say, from my own personal knowledge and observations the Greek one is wholly false. ‘Extract from a Speech of Sir G. Campbell at Kirkraldy, delivered January 26, 1877’]

[Pelister]

Interesting find, T.M.

Once again, just another contemporary who is having a hard time pinning down just who are the 'Greeks'.