Originally posted by Bratot
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According to the Sanskrit - barh means a speech/language, and the word Barbar-a means gabblering, stammering, unintelligible speech or language.
I don't have to remind you that ancient Greeks called us Barbarians, the Macedonians to the Greeks were BARBARs meaning 'those with indistinct speech- gibberish/gabblers', since they couldn't understand the Macedonian language.
The Latin meaning is the same:
Barbara fem. Proper name, from L., fem. Of barbarus "strange, foreign, barbarous," from Gk. barbaros (see barbarian).
barbarian 1338, from M.L. barbarinus, from L. barbaria "foreign country," from Gk. barbaros "foreign, strange, ignorant," from PIE base *barbar- echoic of unintelligible speech of foreigners (cf. Skt. barbara- "stammering," also "non-Aryan"). Barbaric is first recorded 1490, from O.Fr. barbarique, from L. barbaricus "foreign, strange, outlandish." Barbarous is first attested 1526.
Barbary c.1300, "foreign lands" (especially non-Christian lands," from L. barbarus "barbarous" (see barbarian).
Meaning "Saracens living in coastal North Africa" is attested from 1596, via Fr. (O.Fr. Barbarie), from Arabic Barbar, Berber, ancient Arabic name for the inhabitants of N.Africa beyond Egypt. Perhaps a native Arabic word, from barbara "to babble confusedly,"
which may be ult. From Gk. barbaria (see barbarian).
"The actual relations (if any) of the Arabic and Gr[eek] words cannot be settled; but in European langs. barbaria, Barbarie, Barbary, have from the first been treated as identical with L. barbaria, Byzantine Gr[eek] barbaria land of barbarians" [OED].
This is nothing spectacular, but it is important in determination of the Macedonian language apart from the old Greek.
I don't have to remind you that ancient Greeks called us Barbarians, the Macedonians to the Greeks were BARBARs meaning 'those with indistinct speech- gibberish/gabblers', since they couldn't understand the Macedonian language.
The Latin meaning is the same:
Barbara fem. Proper name, from L., fem. Of barbarus "strange, foreign, barbarous," from Gk. barbaros (see barbarian).
barbarian 1338, from M.L. barbarinus, from L. barbaria "foreign country," from Gk. barbaros "foreign, strange, ignorant," from PIE base *barbar- echoic of unintelligible speech of foreigners (cf. Skt. barbara- "stammering," also "non-Aryan"). Barbaric is first recorded 1490, from O.Fr. barbarique, from L. barbaricus "foreign, strange, outlandish." Barbarous is first attested 1526.
Barbary c.1300, "foreign lands" (especially non-Christian lands," from L. barbarus "barbarous" (see barbarian).
Meaning "Saracens living in coastal North Africa" is attested from 1596, via Fr. (O.Fr. Barbarie), from Arabic Barbar, Berber, ancient Arabic name for the inhabitants of N.Africa beyond Egypt. Perhaps a native Arabic word, from barbara "to babble confusedly,"
which may be ult. From Gk. barbaria (see barbarian).
"The actual relations (if any) of the Arabic and Gr[eek] words cannot be settled; but in European langs. barbaria, Barbarie, Barbary, have from the first been treated as identical with L. barbaria, Byzantine Gr[eek] barbaria land of barbarians" [OED].
This is nothing spectacular, but it is important in determination of the Macedonian language apart from the old Greek.
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