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Just thought I would bring the various threads on this forum together for this.
Greek newspaper acknowledges the Macedonians.
Ion Dragoumis mentions the Macedonian-speakers
Ion Dragoumis mentions the Macedonians
Paul Argyriades (1896) acknowledges the Macedonians
Macedonian Language recognizes in Spiro Mela's book
Greek documents confirm Macedonians exist
Greek newspaper acknowledges the Macedonians.
Friday 8 July 1905 << A few months ago it was announced in Monastiri* by the Macedonian Organization Committee, that it undertook a project to publish a Macedonian Grammar. The committee consists of seven professors of linguistics. As base for this grammar will be the dialect spoken in the Vilayet of Monastiri*. This dialect has already been proclaimed by the committee as the Macedonian language. The teachers of the Slavic schools in Macedonia are ordered to teach this language instead of the Serbian or Bulgarian and through this to put in place a base for the creation of an independent Macedonia. In the future textbooks and other books will be printed in this Macedonian language, soon after it is thought by the Organization to prohibit the use of the Serbian and Bulgarian languages >>[SKRIP, 8/7/1905, p. 1.]
*Monastiri = Bitola.
*Monastiri = Bitola.
You cannot own every town/city that is inhabited by Greeks. If so Massalia would be yours, as well as Edessa
-The same observation more or less I make of you.
You want to make the area of Monastiri yours, because there are towns there where Macedonian* is spoken, which you call Bulgarian.
- Many towns! All the towns in the area speak Bulgarian!
Do they wish to be Greeks or not?
And since they do want(to be Greek), Im not sure if language is enough proof of a peoples ethnicity.
First off, the language in question is not spoken by all, but only some Macedonian villagers. Those who speak it, do so only in their houses not in public(agora), where they speak Greek. And finally, this language is not Bulgarian, but a mix of slavic and Greek. It is not Bulgarian, Bulgarian does not exist even in Bulgaria. The cities of Macedonia are clearly Greek, the people of the area are Greek, the history of the area is Greek, and the actual land(earth/dirt) is Greek.
- I can not understand, and I never will, this idea that you have that the Macedonians lost their language and picked up Bulgarian.
-I can not see how the Bulgarians who are Ouvo(?)-Tartars lost their language and took...
*the exact translation from Greek is Macedonian language
-The same observation more or less I make of you.
You want to make the area of Monastiri yours, because there are towns there where Macedonian* is spoken, which you call Bulgarian.
- Many towns! All the towns in the area speak Bulgarian!
Do they wish to be Greeks or not?
And since they do want(to be Greek), Im not sure if language is enough proof of a peoples ethnicity.
First off, the language in question is not spoken by all, but only some Macedonian villagers. Those who speak it, do so only in their houses not in public(agora), where they speak Greek. And finally, this language is not Bulgarian, but a mix of slavic and Greek. It is not Bulgarian, Bulgarian does not exist even in Bulgaria. The cities of Macedonia are clearly Greek, the people of the area are Greek, the history of the area is Greek, and the actual land(earth/dirt) is Greek.
- I can not understand, and I never will, this idea that you have that the Macedonians lost their language and picked up Bulgarian.
-I can not see how the Bulgarians who are Ouvo(?)-Tartars lost their language and took...
*the exact translation from Greek is Macedonian language
Throughout much of the text, Dragoumis wrote in broad, general categories of "Greek" and "Bulgarian". Yet occasionally, particularly when articulating a detailed ethnographic point, he also spoke of "Macedonians of Macedonia" and the "Vlachs of Hellenism". The context of national struggle in Macedonia at the time of Dragoumis' writing shaped a broad rhetorical framework of Greek-Bulgarian opposition in his political discourse. The equally important context of local conditions, as he himself had observed and experienced them, revealed another level of group labels and ideological characteristics masked by the principal Greek-Bulgarian dichotomy, such as the Macedonians of Macedonia (who opposed both Greek and Bulgarian activities) and the Vlachs of Hellenism (who rejected Romanian propaganda and considered themselves members of the Hellenic national collectivity). The depiction is significant, for it addresses the active role Hellenized Vlachs played in establishing the hegemony of the notion (and the policing) of a modern Greek state in Macedonia. As for the "Macedonians", Dragoumis maintained that their language is closer to a mix of Greek and Slavic than to Bulgarian.
“...They want to remain Macedonians without any other epithet, guarding for themselves their beautiful Macedonia...”
Macedonian Language recognizes in Spiro Mela's book
Greek documents confirm Macedonians exist
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