where & when was the first NAPALM used ?

[Dimko-piperkata]

where & when was it that the first NAPALM was used and for what reasons ? i dont mean the experimential test bombing but rather the first time of military using.


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[Sarafot]

If it wasn't in Egejska than for shure in Vietnam!

[Dimko-piperkata]

in bela makedonia (egejska) ?
have u got more informations ?

[Sarafot]

I could look around,but i first see it in documentarys about Deca begalci...also they speak about it?!

[MapleLeaf1]

When We Helped Napalm Greece

Posted on July 17, 2008. Filed under: 4. War and Empire |

“In 1945 most parts of the world celebrated the end of the Second World War and, in order to prevent such a tragedy from reoccurring, established the United Nations Organization. Yet Greece remained a battlefield and already one year after the Second World War the Cold War started. As the frustration of the Greek left grew, a fraction rearmed and took to the hills and in the fall of 1946 started a civil war against the British and the local right. Britain exhausted by World War, could no longer control the country and in early 1947 asked the United States for support. CIA expert William Blum relates that ‘Washington officials knew well that their new client government was so venal and so abusive of human rights that even confirmed American anti-Communists were appalled.’ Yet as Communist Yugoslavia supported the Greek left with arms and the country seemed on the brink of turning red, President Truman with his ‘Truman Doctrine’ speech in March 1947 was able to convince Congress to openly intervene in Greece. Greece was the first country to be invaded by the United States during the Cold War according to its strategy of combating Communism globally. In the following decades Washington put forward the argument used in Greece to justify its open or cover invasions of Korea, Guatemala, Iran, Cuba, Vietnam, Kambodscha, Nicaragua, Panama and several other countries.

“By some ideological alchemy, Truman labeled the corrupt right-wing regime in Athens as ‘democratic’ and dismissed its opponents on the left as ‘terrorists,’ as US forces with heavy military equipment landed in Greece. The left-wing partisan force of some 20,000 men and women, scattered in the Greek mountains, was outnumbered six to one as the US special units linked up with the Hellenistic Raiding Force and other units of the Greek right. When Stalin realized that civil war in Greece could lead to a superpower confrontation, Yugoslavia was excluded from the Soviet Bloc in 1948 where upon the arms supply for the Greek partisans ebbed away. The situation became desperate as the Hellenic Raiding Force operating under US command was excellently equipped and gained strength. The United States secretly started ‘Operation Torch’ and used chemical warfare to defeat the Greek partisans by dropping thousands of gallons of Napalm on Greece.” - Daniele Ganser, NATO’s Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe (New York: Frank Cass Pub., 2005), 214,215.

“In early June two American Air Force officers and four enlisted men from the Military Advisory and Planning Group prepared to train the Greeks in [napalm] use. By the middle of the month the Americans made arrangements for moving the napalm equipment and crews from Eleusis Airfield to Kozani. Van Fleet agreed with Matheny that it was time to seek the American aid mission’s approval for napalm attacks. Orders went out for over 5,000 pounds of napalm from the United States and 200 drop tanks from Germany which could hold 75 gallons of liquid each. On June 20, ten Spitfires launched their first napalm raid on targets chosen by the army.” — Howard Jones, “A New Kind of War”- America’s Global Strategy and the Truman Doctrine in Greece (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 1997), 293.

http://scribblativeagincourting.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/when-we-helped-napalm-greece/

[MapleLeaf1]

According to The Greek Civil War: Essays on a Conflict of Exceptionalism and Silences by Philip. Carabott, Thanasis D. Sfikas,the Greek General Staff "refused to recognise the communists as Greeks..demanding more napalm bombs to throw at them,while its request for anaesthetic or asphyxiating gases and chemical warfare materials was cut short by the Americans.."pg.94

Book can be found here

http://books.google.ca/books?id=wKRR1DQfnhYC&dq=The+Greek+Civil+War:+Essays+on+a+Conflict+of+Exceptionalism+and+Silences&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=zqnruz2F_b&sig=RLfE6TNd6tEuNwoRUyTSOBfrVc0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA93,M1

[Dimko-piperkata]

Emilija Geleva - the very first NAPALM BOMB was applied against Macedonians at the GRAMOS rock

YouTube - Emilija Geleva - the very first NAPALM BOMB was applied against Macedonians at the GRAMOS rock

[Sarafot]

That is how they like Makedonija,the first bomb was throwen on AJGE, and now they claim Macedonians were Greeks, trago-ironic way to love or like something!!

I hope that god will give us once, a chance to pay them back for evry thing!!

[Risto the Great]

It was used in Kostur first.
To destroy the Macedonians. You could probably still smell it near the pissy ski resort near Bigla.
Nowadays people in Kostur still paint icons worshiping royalty on their roads. The irony does not escape me.

[Daskalot]

Historical use

Napalm was first used as fuel for flamethrowers and went on to be used more prevalently in firebombs.[2]

In 1942 after research at Harvard University scientist found that a jelly gasoline like substance burnt more slowly and thus was far more effective. They found that mixing an aluminum soap powder of naphthene and palmitate (hence na-palm), also known as napthenic and palmitic acids, with gasoline produced a brownish sticky syrup that burned more slowly than raw gasoline. This new mixture of chemicals was widely used in the Second World War in flame throwers and fire bombs. Napalm bombs burned out 40% of the area of Japanese target cities in the World War. Popular weapons continue to be developed, and napalm was no exception. With many more compounds available after World War II, a safer and just as effective napalm compound was developed.[3]

On July 17, 1944, napalm incendiary bombs were dropped for the first time by 14 American P-38 Lightning aircraft of the 402nd Fighter Squadron / 370th Fighter Group on a fuel depot at Coutances, near St. Lô, France.[9] Further use by the Allied forces occurred in the Pacific theater (warfare) against Japanese cities.[10] In the Western theatre, the Royal Air Force and US Army Air Forces dropped several hundred thousand firebombs on the city of Dresden, destroying over 90% of the city center.[11] Napalm was used in the siege of La Rochelle in April 1945 against German soldiers (and inadvertently French civilians) - about two weeks before the end of the war.[12]

Napalm was also used in the Greek civil war between the Greek governmental army and US against the communist rebels. At the last year of the civil war US increased their aid by suggesting a new weapon to finish the war. It was in 1949 when the first napalm test took place in the mountain Grammos, which was the communist stronghold.

Napalm was also used by UN forces in the Korean War.[2]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm

[Soldier of Macedon]

Thanks Daskale, further corroboration of the same story we all know and are clear about now.

[Spartan]

^^^SoM

If Onur had of provided a link to this thread, I would have never interjected in the other, and we would of saved ourselves from petty bickering.

[Soldier of Macedon]

What in this thread would have changed your mind Spartan? Did you also doubt the fact that napalm was used against the Macedonians in the Macedonian part of Greece?

[Spartan]

I had never heard of it, but thats not to say it did or did not happen.
This thread (which I dont recall), provides some solid sources.

[TrueMacedonian]

http://scribblativeagincourting.word...napalm-greece/

The sentence within mapleleaf1's post here;

President Truman with his ‘Truman Doctrine’ speech in March 1947 was able to convince Congress to openly intervene in Greece.

with daskalot's post explains it all. The Truman Doctrine initiated the use of napalm in Kostur and other parts of Macedonia. The grks could never win a war on their own. There was always some type of parental help there with them.