Taken from The New York Daily Tribune, September 7th 1908.
NY Daily Tribune, Turkish constitution attended by Macedonians, 1908!
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Greek/Bulgar response:
"no no man, you get this all wrong, Macedonians were always Greeks, but there were Bulgarian Macedonians in geographical sence bla bla bla...."
what a salad
Good find DaskalotTo enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Originally posted by makedonin View PostGreek/Bulgar response:
"no no man, you get this all wrong, Macedonians were always Greeks, but there were Bulgarian Macedonians in geographical sence bla bla bla...."
what a salad
Good find DaskalotMacedonian Truth Organisation
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Originally posted by Daskalot View PostThank you Makedonin, I would really like to hear what our Greek and Bulgarian parrots have to say about this........
by the way there was a guy here who got banned and always repeat the same question, how come's Macedonians got excluded in the Mayor treaties and nagotiation.
well treaties like Bucharest etc. were mostly secred one, between those who were making their plans of expanding their theritories on cost of Macedonia.
but as one see, on open nagotiation, treaties or as here a tribune, Macedonians were present, since they got also the chanse to know of this Tribune.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Ok 2-3 american newspapers' articles...on the other hand there are 3.500 or more documents (official and unofficial) were no ethnic Macedonians are recorded in the area..only Greeks,Bulgarians,Serbians,Turks,Jews,Armenians...
The documents are so many, that if someone tried to present them ,he would accused of spamming and propaganda.
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Originally posted by toothpaste View PostOk 2-3 american newspapers' articles...on the other hand there are 3.500 or more documents (official and unofficial) were no ethnic Macedonians are recorded in the area..only Greeks,Bulgarians,Serbians,Turks,Jews,Armenians...
The documents are so many, that if someone tried to present them ,he would accused of spamming and propaganda.
And you are also correct, the documents were propaganda back then and so they are also today.
I will ask you kindly are you denying the existence of ethnic Macedonians, Toothpaste?
Each one of the Greeks,Bulgarians,Serbians,Turks,Jews,Armenians had a national church and religious community.Macedonian Truth Organisation
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Originally posted by Daskalot View PostYou are completely correct, those documents that you speak of were for the greatest part provided by the nations that aimed to grab a part of Macedonia when the collapse of the Ottoman Empire was eminent.
IN THE BALKANS.; A Trip Through Macedonia -- The Land of Strife. April 18, 1903, Saturday
THE POINT:
....ROMANIAN SERVIAN AND BULGARIAN AGENTS ARE ALL SCRAMBLING FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THESE ERRING SPIRITS, WHILE LEARNED PROFESSORS AT ST. PETERSBURG AND BUCHAREST, BELGRADE AND SOFIA ARE BUSY MANUFACTURING GENEALOGICAL TREES AND NATIONAL APPELATIONS FOR ALL AND SUNDRY OF THESE BEWILDERING APOSTLES OF EMANCIPATION...To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Originally posted by Daskalot View PostI will ask you kindly are you denying the existence of ethnic Macedonians, Toothpaste?
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No way.
But we must some time understand that nations are living...dying transforming..changing..getting assimilated...forming...
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Originally posted by toothpaste View PostIn 2008..?
No way.
But we must some time understand that nations are living...dying transforming..changing..getting assimilated...forming...
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Only the Hellenes have formed them selfs about 3000 years ago and never changed since than
Originally posted by Daskalot View PostThis is what I am talking about Makedonin, thank you for providing this valuable information.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Originally posted by makedonin View PostA Britan Philhellene onece concluded:
IN THE BALKANS.; A Trip Through Macedonia -- The Land of Strife. April 18, 1903, Saturday
THE POINT:
....ROMANIAN SERVIAN AND BULGARIAN AGENTS ARE ALL SCRAMBLING FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THESE ERRING SPIRITS, WHILE LEARNED PROFESSORS AT ST. PETERSBURG AND BUCHAREST, BELGRADE AND SOFIA ARE BUSY MANUFACTURING GENEALOGICAL TREES AND NATIONAL APPELATIONS FOR ALL AND SUNDRY OF THESE BEWILDERING APOSTLES OF EMANCIPATION...
Note there are no "Greek agents" mentioned, manufacturing genealogical trees and national appellations ...
Obviously referring to the Committees and their efforts in Macedonia.
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Originally posted by toothpaste View PostI m sorry to disappoint you...but if this is a Greeks' friend article..then it implies that the only people in Macedonia are Greeks.
Note there are no "Greek agents" mentioned, manufacturing genealogical trees and national appellations ...
Obviously referring to the Committees and their efforts in Macedonia.
ofcourse there are no Greek agents mentioned because the Guy wan't to clean the Greeks, he is Phillhellene. In the rest of the article he praises the Greeks at high level.
by the way, the Greek agents were the Makedonomachos and Greek Patriarchists, and just cause the Phillhellene of the article avoids to mention them, does not means that they did not exist and didn't did their work.
But of course you will play the dumb card, since it fits youLast edited by makedonin; 09-18-2008, 09:28 AM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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