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Old 07-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #101
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Macedonia through Gazprom's will enter "Juzen Potok"

Macedonia will be part of Juzen Potok. This was agreed at yesterday's meeting with the head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller and the Macedonian president Ivanov and the vice president of the government Stavreski.


According Stavreski, the government soon will make political decision and than both governments will seal the arrangement. The whole process should be completed in several months.
The plan is to start to work in 2015, and the amount of the investment is 8.6 billion euros. The capacity of “Juzen Potok” is 60 billion cubic meters of gas annually.

In addition, the Macedonian delegation had a meeting with the leadership of Lukoil, and on Saturday, Macedonia will finally sign the contract for the clearing debt with Russia.

http://www.mkfondovi.com/en_UK/news/...zen-potok.html


Македонија официјално во „Јужен поток“

Македонија и официјално е на мапата на гасоводот Јужниот тек. Македонската владина делегација денеска од руската влада ја доби нацрт-спогодбата за соработка во изградбата на гасоводната мрежа.


- Ова претставува успех за Македонија... Владата во најкраток можен рок ќе го разгледа текстот и ќе ја продолжиме процедурата на македонска страна во соработка со „Газпром“ и руската Влада, изјави Ставрески.

Градбата на ”Јужен поток” се очекува да почне во декември годинава, и до крајот на 2015-та да заврши комплетно. Гасоводот има два крака.
Првиот минува низ Бугарија, Србија, Хрватска, Словенија и Австралија, а вториот преку Грција и Албанија до Италија.
За Македонија ќе биде пуштен крак кој засега не е утврдено дали ќе биде од Грција или од Србија. Нацрт-спогодбата ќе биде проучена од експерти, а изградбата ќе ја менаџира мешовита компанија по примерот на останатите вклучени земји.
Приклучувањето на Македонија во овој проект ќе значи пристап на компаниите и граѓаните до поевтина енергија.
Денешната меѓувладина спогодба следи откако вчера беше потпишан меморандум со руската компанија „Стројтрансгас“ за изградба на гасоводната мрежа во Македонија.

izvor: http://sitel.com.mk/dnevnik/makedoni...potok%E2%80%9C
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:52 PM   #102
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Why is it taking so long like all good ideas it's been slowed down by red tape & officialdom.Correct me if i'm wrong but gazprom was talking years ago of having a gas pipeline laid throuhout macedonia.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:23 PM   #103
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Bulgaria is responsible for the delay, or rather the negotiations between Bulgaria and Russia. The politicians here are trying to satisfy both Russia and the US (if that is that even possible), because there's another project like that called Nabuco, which goes through Turkey. Nabuco is supported by the US - South Stream is not. The entry points into Europe of both projects are in Bulgaria, so it's just taking a bit more time to close the deals.

As far as I know, the gas from South Stream is scheduled to start flowing in 2015.

Bulgaria also pissed off Russia big time by refusing to go ahead with the construction of the Belene nuclear plan. Russia was planned to build it, and it actually started doing so, but Bulgaria froze the project and is now thinking of giving it to China. It's all one big mess of political games and of course - lots of money for those with the deep pockets. Who cares about the ordinary folks - just give them more Turkish soapies to wait and keep quiet...

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Old 07-03-2012, 06:59 PM   #104
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Bulgaria is responsible for the delay, or rather the negotiations between Bulgaria and Russia. The politicians here are trying to satisfy both Russia and the US (if that is that even possible), because there's another project like that called Nabuco, which goes through Turkey. Nabuco is supported by the US - South Stream is not. The entry points into Europe of both projects are in Bulgaria, so it's just taking a bit more time to close the deals.

As far as I know, the gas from South Stream is scheduled to start flowing in 2015.

Bulgaria also pissed off Russia big time by refusing to go ahead with the construction of the Belene nuclear plan. Russia was planned to build it, and it actually started doing so, but Bulgaria froze the project and is now thinking of giving it to China. It's all one big mess of political games and of course - lots of money for those with the deep pockets. Who cares about the ordinary folks - just give them more Turkish soapies to wait and keep quiet...
Bulgaria also pissed off the Russians with the termination of the BurgasĖAlexandroupoli pipeline;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgas%...upoli_pipeline
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Burgas - Alexandroupoli was cancelled because the people in Bulgaria thought it will have negative effects to the environment and the tourism industry. So there were rallies on the streets and referendums against it and the government was forced to scratch it. I'm sure the Russians didn't liked that.
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Burgas - Alexandroupoli was cancelled because the people in Bulgaria thought it will have negative effects to the environment and the tourism industry. So there were rallies on the streets and referendums against it and the government was forced to scratch it. I'm sure the Russians didn't liked that.
Perhaps, but any project of this sort will have negative environmental consequences. I think the political aspect of the decision had more to do with it.
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Don't piss off the Russians, just ask the Ukrainians and Poles. They'll turn it off during the winter months!
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Yeah the'll switch the gas off in the middle of winter.I saw how bad it is in macedonia you can't cut trees you can't do this or that.The gas is a great idea.
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Video of Putin Rejecting Priest's Kiss Goes Viral

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A monk at the Valaam Monastery in northwestern Russia explained why he had kissed Vladimir Putinís hand during the Russian presidentís visit, the monasteryís spokesman Mikhail Shishkov said on Tuesday.

Putin visited the monastery on the Valaam Island in the Russian Republic of Karelia on Monday to hold a meeting of the Russian Geographical Societyís supervisory board. A video by the RT TV channel shows Hegumen Mefody, an aide to the monasteryís head, kissing the Russian leaderís hand, which Putin quickly withdrew. The clip spurred a heated debate in the media and the blogosphere, with some people saying such acts were improper for a priest.

But Shishkov said the gesture of Father Mefody, who is from Macedonia, was as a sign of respect for the Russian nation on behalf of the brotherly Macedonian nation, adding that among priests and laypeople, kissing hands is one of Eastern Orthodox Christianityís traditions that symbolizes meekness.

ďHe is a Macedonian; he came to Russia to dedicate himself to serving God. I personally asked Father Mefody: ĎA question is being discussed in the media: why did you kiss the Russian presidentís hand?íĒ Shishkov told RIA Novosti.
ďHe answered: ĎI kissed the Russian presidentís hand as a token of acknowledgement of the great Russian nation by the small [Macedonian] nation,íĒ Shishkov said.


Shishkov lamented that he had received ďmany unpleasant calls,Ē including from journalists, after the incident. ďPeople call me and say: ĎWhy do you crawl, why do you behave like sycophants?í I have not heard such boorishness before.Ē

ďThis person is a Macedonian; he filled that action with profound meaning. But [critics] only see the church as an enemy and aggressor. They are not interested in how many people he brought to Christ, how selflessly he works or how hospitably he receives Valaam guests,Ē the monasteryís spokesman said.

Critics have accused some of the Russian Orthodox Church's hierarchs, including its head Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia, of failure to comply with Christian commandments. Church officials have dismissed the accusations. The church has also come under attacks over its support for Putin, who was elected Russian president for a third nonconsecutive term in March and was sworn into office in May.
Shishkov also said Father Mefody apologized to those whom he may have confused when he kissed Putinís hand.

ďAs I love the Russian nation very much, this is a manifestation of my Christian love as a representative of a small Slavic nation toward the great Russian nation,Ē Shishkov quoted Father Mefody as saying. ďI apologize to all people I involuntarily confused by that act.Ē

Father Mefody said he reveres Balkan traditions, one of which is to respect seniors, and added that he had ďalways kissed the handsĒ of his parents and grandparents as a sign of love and respect.
The Novy Region news agency quoted Alexander Okunev, a blogger, as saying that his mother knows Father Mefody. He said Mefody became a monk in Russia, and Putin helped him receive Russian citizenship, for which the priest is grateful.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...al/463286.html
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Vladimir Putin has come under fire after a video of him shaking his fist at a priest surfaced online.

The incident occurred when Putin visited the famous Valaam monastery on Lake Ladoga to attend a meeting of the Russian Geographical Society. After shaking hands with a number of society board members, the Orthodfox priest attempted to kiss Putin on the hand, and the Russian president jerked away in surprise before briefly raising a fist. Footage of the exchange was uploaded on YouTube by Russia Today.

Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday that Putin has had to warn the man about physical gestures in the past.

The priest, who is from Macedonia, defended his gesture. "We have this tradition in the Balkans of always honoring your superiors, and I always kiss the hands of parents, grandparents and so forth as a sign of love and respect," he told Interfax.

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