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Old 08-05-2017, 05:34 AM   #1
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Default Let's Negotiate the Macedonian Identity

Read this article and try not to puke. This Macedonian professor for Skopje proposes we change the name of our identity in order to placate the Greeks and our problems with Bulgaria/Serbia.

Well, so much for the long and slow suicide.


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Is it possible that Slavic-Macedonians or Slavo-Macedonians will be a name that will assuage Greek fears and yet do justice to the historical accuracy related to Macedonian national identity (including the part to which Bulgaria has its claims too)? In order for such discussions to begin, it is necessary that the Macedonians accept that indeed there is no frozen essence of identity and that the only constant is dynamism and transformation. Therefore, a contemporary rather than ancient specification of the identifier (“Macedonian”) will serve its future and that of its neighbours better, and hopefully lead to the resolution of the name dispute with Greece.

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Old 08-05-2017, 05:50 PM   #2
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There is no frozen essence of stupidity. The difference between professors and politicians is probably a few hundred Euro.
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Old 08-05-2017, 11:28 PM   #3
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"Leaving this atavistic logic behind, let us go back to the time of the “artificial creation” of the Macedonian nation – in 1945, Yugoslavia. I have to agree this must have been the time of the creation of the nation, the time when part of the geographic region of Macedonia acquired the status of a nation-state. That was 72 years ago. Before that there was a revolutionary movement that appeared toward the end of the nineteenth century campaigning and fighting by means of terrorism for the foundation of a Macedonian state. That movement was led by an organization called Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization and, according to it, the “nature” of the Slavic majority of the nation to be was Bulgarian. It seems that the official historiography and politics of Bulgaria is right when arguing that Macedonia must admit an important part of its national history is in fact Bulgarian or at least indistinguishable from that of Bulgaria."

Is the bold part true? Was there such a clear statement by IMRO?

"Going back to the objection of “artificiality”: it looks as if both the objectors (Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs) and those who defend themselves (Macedonians) are unaware that nations, like all other forms of collective belonging, organized sociality and identity, are in fact “constructs.” There is nothing “natural” about them. This argument is not necessarily poststructuralist or constructivist. In fact, practically all authoritative methods in contemporary political science suppose that these phenomena are subject to historical change, transformation and are de facto “creations.” So, they all have a production and expiry date."

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Old 08-05-2017, 11:49 PM   #4
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This moron is a "Professor of philosophy, gender studies and sociological theory". Nothing more than shilling for denationalization to achieve her marxist agenda.
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Old 08-06-2017, 03:09 AM   #5
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Even more sadder is that she is the daughter of Gjorgi Kolozov.



And he was pro Macedonian...
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"Leaving this atavistic logic behind, let us go back to the time of the “artificial creation” of the Macedonian nation – in 1945, Yugoslavia. I have to agree this must have been the time of the creation of the nation, the time when part of the geographic region of Macedonia acquired the status of a nation-state. That was 72 years ago. Before that there was a revolutionary movement that appeared toward the end of the nineteenth century campaigning and fighting by means of terrorism for the foundation of a Macedonian state. That movement was led by an organization called Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization and, according to it, the “nature” of the Slavic majority of the nation to be was Bulgarian. It seems that the official historiography and politics of Bulgaria is right when arguing that Macedonia must admit an important part of its national history is in fact Bulgarian or at least indistinguishable from that of Bulgaria."

Is the bold part true? Was there such a clear statement by IMRO?



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Old 08-06-2017, 11:44 PM   #7
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Very provocative thing to express in a country with open censorship for anti SDS comments.
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