Macedonian Truth Forum   

Go Back   Macedonian Truth Forum > Macedonian Truth Forum > News and Politics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-13-2019, 08:16 AM   #11
Niko777
Senior Member
 
Niko777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,877
Niko777 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevce View Post
Be interesting to see what happens. Will the people in the South like Bitola and Prilep allow this to happen with the monuments and churches?
The people of Bitola already allowed their monuments to be desecrated. The Gruevski regime modified the Macedonian sun on the fountain in the central square a few years ago.
Niko777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2019, 05:13 PM   #12
Niko777
Senior Member
 
Niko777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,877
Niko777 is on a distinguished road
Default

From today:



Niko777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2019, 06:20 AM   #13
vicsinad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 2,311
vicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud ofvicsinad has much to be proud of
Default

They also added a sign on the Alexander the Great statute that says "In Honor of Alexander the Great, a historic figure belonging to the ancient Hellenic history and civilization..."
vicsinad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2019, 01:13 PM   #14
Niko777
Senior Member
 
Niko777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,877
Niko777 is on a distinguished road
Default

The Prespa and Ohrid agreements in one picture



Niko777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2019, 04:22 PM   #15
Risto the Great
Senior Member
 
Risto the Great's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia
Posts: 14,687
Risto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yet Zaev continues to live. Shame on the inhabitants of that former nation.
__________________
Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA

"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Risto the Great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2019, 08:35 AM   #16
Vangelovski
Senior Member
 
Vangelovski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 8,350
Vangelovski is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risto the Great View Post
Yet Zaev continues to live. Shame on the inhabitants of that former nation.
Yeah, but notice how they messed with Greece by sticking the sign on crooked? Oh wait, that was just incompetence.
__________________
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
Vangelovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2019, 10:27 AM   #17
Niko777
Senior Member
 
Niko777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,877
Niko777 is on a distinguished road
Default

"The City of Skopje with increased inspections and security will protect the new signs on the monuments"

Source: https://www.24.mk/details/grad-skopj...na-spomenicite

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C
Niko777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2019, 07:40 PM   #18
Risto the Great
Senior Member
 
Risto the Great's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia
Posts: 14,687
Risto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond repute
Default Some Macedonians Praise Destroyers of New ‘Hellenic’ Plaques

https://balkaninsight.com/2019/08/16...rth-macedonia/

Quote:
On social networks, many Macedonians have praised the unknown figures who have removed or destroyed new plaques explaining the ‘Hellenic character’ of various statues in Skopje.

Unknown perpetrators in North Macedonia have removed or smashed plaques added to several statues and monuments in Skopje – which explained that they depict historical figures “belonging to the ancient Hellenic history and civilisation and to world cultural and historic heritage”.

The action occurred just one day after the authorities put them up.

The plaque put on the statue of Alexander the Great has been destroyed altogether, media reported on Friday. So was the plaque put on the monument of Alexander’s father, Philip of Macedon.

The erection of the explanatory plaques, written in Macedonian, Albanian and English, formed part of the landmark “name” agreement signed with Greece in June 2018.

This aimed to finally resolve the decades-long dispute with Greece over the name of the country that saw it change its name from Republic of Macedonia to Republic of North Macedonia.

In exchange, Greece promised to stop blocking its neighbour’s accession to NATO and the start of its EU membership talks.

Under the agreement, North Macedonia also promised to place informative plaques on disputed monuments depicting figures from classical antiquity, which Greece considers an exclusive part of its own heritage.

The monuments were built from 2010 onwards by the previous government led by Nikola Gruevski as part of a grand revamp of the capital, dubbed Skopje 2014. While some locals like them, they further soured relations with Greece, which saw them as a provocation.

Under the “name” deal, North Macedonia also promised to remove the Vergina Sun symbol from public spaces. Also known as the Macedonian Star, it is a stylized sun with 16 triangular rays. It has been another point of dispute between the two countries.

But when local authorities in Skopje and other towns on Thursday started removing the emblems, some locals were not happy.

Media reported that one citizen in the town of Bitola had spray-painted the controversial emblem back on to manholes.

On social networks, meanwhile, many people praised those who had removed the “Hellenic” plaques, or who had repainted the sun symbol back where it once had been.

“Bravo! That’s the way to go,” Dobrila Doreska wrote on Facebook, praising the unknown man who had spray-painted the Vergina Sun back in Bitola.

“Is there anything of Macedonian landmarks that is left to destroy?” Trajce Ognjanov asked dramatically on Facebook.

Some comments were more aggressive, especially towards Prime Minister Zoran Zaev, one of the key architects of the agreement with Greece.

Under a news article that accused Zaev of trying to “change history,” Facebook user Anita Stojanovska wrote: “They should catch you and tattoo the flag [presumably the one with the Vergina Sun] all over your body, you freak. That would be your biggest punishment”.

North Macedonia removed the sun symbol from its national flag in 1995, to ease relations with its neighbour. But it is still widely used by nationalists in north Macedonia. However, they remain free to continue using it, as the deal does not include a ban on its private use.
Hope remains in the smallest of gestures.
__________________
Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA

"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Risto the Great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2019, 01:00 AM   #19
Karposh
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 563
Karposh is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risto the Great View Post
Yet Zaev continues to live. Shame on the inhabitants of that former nation.
If only it was just Zaev that needs to be made an example of. Truth is there are hundreds, if not thousands of traitors - traitors that even Judas himself would cringe with shame at, that need to be lined up in Ploshtad Makedonija, in full view of the EU and the UN and summarily shot dead.
Karposh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2019, 05:49 AM   #20
Risto the Great
Senior Member
 
Risto the Great's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia
Posts: 14,687
Risto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond reputeRisto the Great has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would imagine if one traitor was dealt with appropriately, others will learn fast. Just like old Yugos became "Macedonians" in FROM. Others will become Macedonians in FROM again.

I made up FROM btw. I think it's appropriate.
__________________
Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA

"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Risto the Great is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump