Greeks, please nominate your representative.

[Truth Bearer]

The Avars is actually not bad theory Slovak as it makes some sense that we don't know what heppened to them do we?Another theory is that they came across with the Turks as fighters for the sultan.There is a region in anatolia that was called Albania in antiquity is there a connection?The Azeris also claim a connection with the Albo's....

[Soldier of Macedon]

No problem Slovak, I will leave him to you, but if he spams or begins to veer off into other topics which have been addressed elsewhere he will be gone.

Truth Bearer, I agree with most of Slovak's theories and studies, there are only minor and trivial points we don't see eye to eye on. And that is ok, we are humans, we are not programmed to believe the same thing and shot down for deviating from it like you people are.

[Venom]

Operation Broom was fucken funny.

Truth Fuckeruper: Risto is way funnier than you.

And thanks for admitting Metaxas was a piece of shit. =)

[Truth Bearer]

Gia sou Venom another ex maknews lad....Why all the defections from maknews lads??What's happened Lubi given you all the shits??

[Mikail]

Oh really why don't you ask SoM or RTG about their "Slavic" heritage??Or even better why don't they accept the term Slavo Macedonians or Macedonian Slavs??Why do they ONLY want the term MACEDONIANS????Even their founding father Poulevski has accepted that term........

Do you accept the term "Greek Turk" or "Turk Greek" or "Turko Athenian"?

Surely if you are as you say, the Truth Bearer, then you have much to tell as to your Turkic origins. We will all be more than pleased to hear about these truths, oh ye bearer of truth!

[Mikail]

Gia sou Venom another ex maknews lad....Why all the defections from maknews lads??What's happened Lubi given you all the shits??

Nah mate! Not at all. We come here to see how our Macedonian brothers are getting on and found a pile of dribble you left all over the place.

You truly are a piece of work man. Theres a truth for ya dood.

[Delodephius]

Well now it makes sense. They are in denial of their Turkish heritage so Macedonians have to be in denial of their Slavic heritage. The fact that there is no such thing as Slavic heritage does not matter.

[VMRO]

So this makes you no different that the others does it?
You want the truth?You can't handle the truth!!
Instead ban ban ban then u lot complain about how Metaxas treated you sadly you are no different.Send to the dungeons mr RTG it doesn't matter stick it out with speaking with yr own kind since you cannot accept noone then you claim we Greeks are racists???

Fuck off truth bearer you cocksucker, you are a fat 40+ year old cockhead who neglects his kids so he can spread propaganda on the internet, you are a fucken sad cunt.

[VMRO]

Oh and hello Slovak the pan slav the man who believes the whole world is SLAVIC.Have you worked out whether Jesus Christ was a Slav yet buddy??

Don't Greeks beleive Jesus christ was Greek? just because his name is Isus Hristos

[Mikail]

That's it Slovak. The bearers of truth, ie Greeks, live in denial of truth and all they bear is their asses

[Petros Houhoulis]

We all know Jesus was Greek. But later in life he became a Slav.

And ... you are not funny. I am funnier, but will not accept your humour if it continues down this path.

Nope. The Greeks did never claimed Jesus Christ. The Bulgarians used to do so many decades ago...

[Daskalot]

Fuck off truth bearer you cocksucker, you are a fat 40+ year old cockhead who neglects his kids so he can spread propaganda on the internet, you are a fucken sad cunt.

So sad, is this true Truth Bearer? I have also heard that you are NOT from Macedonia but rather from the islands in the Ionic sea, the so called "Seven Sisters", is this the case???

[Petros Houhoulis]

Do you accept the term "Greek Turk" or "Turk Greek" or "Turko Athenian"?

Surely if you are as you say, the Truth Bearer, then you have much to tell as to your Turkic origins. We will all be more than pleased to hear about these truths, oh ye bearer of truth!

You seem at odds with logic here. The name "Turkey" was not the official name of any country until 1923. The name of that place was Ottoman empire, and the westerners called it with other names as well (Including "Turkey" and "Asia Minor"). Those "Turks" who fled en mass at 1922 and earlier had abandoned the Ottoman empire.

Many of them were not of Greek extract. The most often quoted case, the Karamanlides, a Christian Turkish speaking people who used a Greek alphabet, accounted for 5 to 10% of the total number of those who emigrated to Greece because of the Lausanne treaty and the only ones to do so after 1922. As you can see below, they were less than 100,000 out of a total of less than 1,200,000 refugees.

You are making a huge fuss by describing the refugees as Turkish speaking *collectively* when in fact the Turkish speakers were a small minority, and they were expelled because Turkey insisted upon exchanges according to religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karamanlides#Origin_and_history

"In the population exchanges that took place during the summer of 1924, Turkey and Greece agreed to transfer their minority populations based on religious background, rather than on ethnicity or language. With some exceptions, the Muslims of Greece (such as the Epirus and Cretan Turks) were deported to Turkey, while the Orthodox Christians were moved to Greece,including the Karamanli.N-[3] The total number of Karamanlides who were expelled from Turkey is difficult to ascertain, but estimates are that slightly under 100,000 Orthodox Christians were driven from Central and Southern Anatolia.[4] However, these may also have included Christians in the same geographical area who continued to speak the Greek language. N-[5]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_of_populations_between_Greece_and_Turkey#Displacements

"In Greece this was called the Asia Minor Catastrophe (Greek: Μικρασιατική καταστροφή). Significant refugee displacement and movement occurred in the upheaval following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and its evolution into modern Turkey, especially following the Balkan Wars, World War I, and the Greco-Turkish war (1919-1922), which was part of the Turkish War for Independence. These included exchanges and expulsion of about 100,000 Slavs and Bulgarians and 500,000 Turks from Greece.

The Treaty of Lausanne affected the populations as follows: almost all Greek Orthodox Christians (Greek- or Turkish-speaking) of Asia Minor including a Turkish-speaking Greek Orthodox population from middle Anatolia (Karamanlides), the Ionia region (e.g. Smyrna, Aivali), the Pontus region (e.g. Trapezunda, Sampsunta), Prusa (Bursa), the Bithynia region (e.g., Nicomedia (İzmit), Chalcedon (Kadıköy), East Thrace, and other regions were either expelled or formally denaturalized from Turkish territory, numbering up to 1.2 million people. About 500,000 people were expelled from Greece, predominantly Turks, but including other Muslims, Muslim Roma, Pomaks, Cham Albanians, and Megleno-Romanians."

[Petros Houhoulis]

Don't Greeks beleive Jesus christ was Greek? just because his name is Isus Hristos

Do you know how many Jews were Hellenized after the conquests of Alexander the Great? It is no surprise that Greek names were all over the place, but few were really Greeks in origin. Jesus was not one of them, and no Greek has suggested so ever - as far as I know.

[Truth Bearer]

The guy the gave him back to Pilate Herod Antipas was a Hellenized Jew.As where Peter and Andrew 2 of the disciples actually so was Bartholomeus as his name translates to BAR (son)Ptolemy(of Ptolemaios).I bet you guys had no idea about that one eh?