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Old 03-29-2016, 01:14 PM   #11
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Adding this one in to the mix.

Slavs in Tzaconia, per below.

Page 221, Footnote 124.

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"Philippson admettent que des installations slaves existaient a Vatika aussi, c'est-a-dire au sud de la fortresse de Tzaconie et pres de Monemvasie. Quelques noms de lieu slaves renforcent cette supposition."

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"Philippson admits that Slavic colonies (installations) existed in Vatika also, that is to say south of the fortress of Tzaconia and close to Monemvasia. Some Slavic place names reinforce this supposition."

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Adding one more map: The Albanian settlements of Mainland Greece.



As we can see, and focusing on the Peloponnese, there were Albanian settlements all over the Peloponnese (including some settlements in the area of Tzakonia, as indicated in the map).

Also, let's not forget that Phrantzes, in his own time, asserted the following:

“Half of Peloponnese land was actually occupied by the Albanians at that time and they attempted to get the other half, too, both by force of arms and by negotiation with Sultan Mehmed II.”
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Arvanitic Tosk subdialect from Peloponnese. Recorded in Iliokastro, Ermioni, in July 1986, by Titos Jochalas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcA6tlH8XrI
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Adding one more map: The Albanian settlements of Mainland Greece.



As we can see, and focusing on the Peloponnese, there were Albanian settlements all over the Peloponnese (including some settlements in the area of Tzakonia, as indicated in the map).

Also, let's not forget that Phrantzes, in his own time, asserted the following:

“Half of Peloponnese land was actually occupied by the Albanians at that time and they attempted to get the other half, too, both by force of arms and by negotiation with Sultan Mehmed II.”


How much must be the percentage of modern Greeks with Arvanite acenstry?

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Old 04-13-2017, 11:20 PM   #15
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How much must be the percentage of modern Greeks with Arvanite acenstry?
It would be pretty high I'm guessing.
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It would be pretty high I'm guessing.
This was discussed (again) recently here (includes numbers and estimations by Greeks and Albanians):

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...057#post167057
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This was discussed (again) recently here (includes numbers and estimations by Greeks and Albanians):

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...057#post167057
Many Albanians were Hellenized before 19th century. That's why I asked.
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Documents inédits relatifs à l'histoire de la Grèce au Moyen âge publiés, By Konstantinos N. Sathas

PREFACE, Page LXXIV:

"In the petition of Albanians of Epirus to Pope Gregory XIII (1581), it is explained very well that Peloponnesians and Albanians are one people, ready to fight for the common cause."


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Old 10-14-2017, 07:50 AM   #20
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Irene Pappas or Irene Leleku:
"I look like my mother. My mother was dark like me. She came from Epirus, while my father probably came from Albania. Maybe I am Albanian, or half Albanian. Peloponnese is full of Albanians.''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Papas#Personal_life
https://telegrafi.com/aktroja-legjen...ysmeshqiptare/

According to one comment Bekim Fehmiu (Kosovo Albanian) (the protagonist Odyssey - of the movie L'Odissea ) claimed that Irene was of Albanian ancestry. However this ones seems suspicious.

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