Originally posted by George S.
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Does Hellenism exist today.??
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I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.
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Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostHellenism is not an ideology or a movement. It's quite obvious that you need Greeks to Hellenise the non-Greeks and then (at least) Hellenised people who will continue this legacy (as long as it lasted).
Did Hellenization exist prior to the Hellenistic age?
Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostBecause the ancient word was Hellenizein, but it wouldn't really matter as it would mean the same thing. I remind you that foreign historians decided to call the previous Greek era, "Classic" (a foreign term suggesting peak period) and the term is now widely used.
To make speak Greek.
Teach the Greek language.
Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostIt implies "Greek" "real Greek", not just Hellenised.
Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostGreeks WERE a "race" of people and most of its' tribes in most of the periods were very (as you would call them now) "racist" about their Greekness. Actually, Athens and Athenian Democracy is one of these places and periods. Pureness of blood, family origins etc. would determin your identity, civil rights and position in society.
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Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostNope. First of all the term is used mostly (if not only) in the adjective form (Hellenistic). It's not Hellenic (Greek) because it refers to "foreign" (?) Empires (Ptolemaic, Seleucid, Indo-Greek etc) with a prevalent Greek character.
Hellenism is not an ideology or a movement. It's quite obvious that you need Greeks to Hellenise the non-Greeks and then (at least) Hellenised people who will continue this legacy (as long as it lasted).
Because the ancient word was Hellenizein, but it wouldn't really matter as it would mean the same thing. I remind you that foreign historians decided to call the previous Greek era, "Classic" (a foreign term suggesting peak period) and the term is now widely used.
It implies "Greek" "real Greek", not just Hellenised.
Greeks WERE a "race" of people and most of its' tribes in most of the periods were very (as you would call them now) "racist" about their Greekness. Actually, Athens and Athenian Democracy is one of these places and periods. Pureness of blood, family origins etc. would determin your identity, civil rights and position in society.
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Originally posted by Amphipolis View PostHellenism is not an ideology or a movement. It's quite obvious that you need Greeks to Hellenise the non-Greeks and then (at least) Hellenised people who will continue this legacy (as long as it lasted).
Because the ancient word was Hellenizein, but it wouldn't really matter as it would mean the same thing. I remind you that foreign historians decided to call the previous Greek era, "Classic" (a foreign term suggesting peak period) and the term is now widely used.
It implies "Greek" "real Greek", not just Hellenised.
Greeks WERE a "race" of people and most of its' tribes in most of the periods were very (as you would call them now) "racist" about their Greekness. Actually, Athens and Athenian Democracy is one of these places and periods. Pureness of blood, family origins etc. would determin your identity, civil rights and position in society.
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