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Old 11-02-2011, 04:34 AM   #21
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THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE EUROPEAN UNION



In a true democracy, all power resides with the people.

eg; EXECUTIVE LEVEL -President/Government
LEGISLATIVE LEVEL - Parliament (which both check and balance each other)
The people vote them in.


The EU lacks this fundamental principle of seperation of powers. Moreover, the people of Europe have
neither control over the executive level nor over the Legislative process. The Parliament they elect
has no means of effectively controlling these branches either.

To hide this inpotence, Article 225- the so-called 'Fig Leaf Article' was inserted into the "Lisbon Treaty"
This clause offers a possibility for the EU Parliament to "Request the commission to submit a proposal" for legislation.
The commission, of course, can simply refuse to do so.
(see http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/index_en.htm).

Operating outside the basic principles of democracy, the Brussels EU by definition is a dictatorship.
The power of the people to determine their government has been transfered to corporate interests.



BRUSSELS EU DICTATORSHIP:

CORPORATE INTERESTS (Oil and Drug Cartels) elects and controls (the executive).

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EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE LEVEL
*EU Commission
*Appointed President
(commission controls Legislative Process).

If the ultimate power no longer resides with the people, democracy becomes dictatorship.

The *EU Commission (That controls Legislative Process) and *Appointed President..... controls EU PARLIAMENT (Who has no right for independent lawmaking)


THE PEOPLE: (Unlike in a true democracy, in the EU the power no longer
resides with the people),
Do not vote the President or EU commission (which these unalected become uncountable). Though the people do vote (just to make them feel part of it) the EU PARLIAMENT which sadly, have No right for independent lawmaking.


Quote:
Czech president compares EU to Soviet-era dictatorship
New York Times, 9 November 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/wo....20309598.html

Big tobacco distorted EU treaty, scientists say
EU Observer, 13 January 2010
http://euobserver.com/9/29252
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:04 AM   #22
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Propaganda or lessons for the future?
Assimilation or integration?





We need more the likes of William Dartmouth.
euronews the network - Propaganda or lessons for the future? - YouTube
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:34 AM   #23
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the eu is not what it's made to be particularly of member states with their huuge deficits.I
wonder if new members are held responsible for others debts.??
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:33 PM   #24
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I wonder if new members are held responsible for others debts.??
There is no need to wonder. This is a fact. Macedonia is so desperate to be swept up in this mess that it confounds me.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:22 AM   #25
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O well why bother to join.Apparently australa might be asked to contribute through the imf .
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Greece has a new Prime Minister.

Lucas Papademos.

*A former European Central Bank vice president.

*A former governor of the Bank of Greece when the country adopted the euro in 2001. (Here is your answer on how Greece entered the Euro and who would have played a major part in altering figures on books. A fucken former European central bank vice president. Surprise surprise).

*He was an adviser to outgoing Prime Minister George Papandreou on economic matters for the last two years. (A EU mole)


Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the dictatorship of the Brussels EU. The new Anti Christ. Europe should be afraid......very afraid.

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Probably another former official of ECB will be appointed as a PM to Italy in a month.


Costas Lapavitsas, a Greek professor of economics from the university of London;
Last rites for the Euro - YouTube

They finally killed democracy in Europe.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:50 PM   #28
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theres talks of a bailout for italy to the tune of 1.3 trillion dollars eu.Ewhether the austerity measuresare enough is another matter big possibility for italy to go like greece.Looks like the eu is starting to disintergrate before our eyes.
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No one, no institution can possibly set up a bailout for trillion dollars. Not IMF, nor ECB. Also, no one can possibly convince western European taxpayers to give trillion euros to Italy.

Greek bailout is a bit more than 100 million euros and we see whats happening about that. Therefore, a trillion dollars worth bailout is impossible.

So, if Italy goes bust just as Greece, they will definitely leave euro zone and return to Lira to be able to save their own economy. This would technically mean the failure of euro zone. Sarkozy says, "if euro zone fails then EU fails".

We can say that if Italy goes bust, then EU project would totally collapse in matter of months.
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No one, no institution can possibly set up a bailout for trillion dollars. Not IMF, nor ECB. Also, no one can possibly convince western European taxpayers to give trillion euros to Italy.

Greek bailout is a bit more than 100 million euros and we see whats happening about that. Therefore, a trillion dollars worth bailout is impossible.

So, if Italy goes bust just as Greece, they will definitely leave euro zone and return to Lira to be able to save their own economy. This would technically mean the failure of euro zone. Sarkozy says, "if euro zone fails then EU fails".

We can say that if Italy goes bust, then EU project would totally collapse in matter of months.
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Can't wait till it happens - bunch of authoritarian eurocrats! Finally an opportunity for a democratic process to be commenced - one door closes another one opens!
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