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Old 05-10-2017, 06:12 AM   #21
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I didn't realise that it was a requirement to report your presence to the police.
If you're not a Macedonian citizen you must report your stay in the police. Things like how long you will be here and what will be the address of your stay are a requirement.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:41 AM   #22
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Or how about this one, from a government level.
Apparently if you want to stay in Macedonia longer than 3 months you need a Macedonian passport (I can't remember the cost but it was a couple of hundred euro)otherwise you will pay a considerable fine when you leave, this is what I was told by my cousins when I was there in 2012.
Even though I had no intention of staying longer than I allocated I stated to my cousin that my 3 months should reset once I got back from Spain and England (as stated above I went to Spain and England for 2 weeks in the middle of the three months) should I decide to stay a few weeks extra. My cousin informed me to the best of my memory (and don't quote me on this) that my 3 months would not reset even though I was in another 2 foreign countries for 2 weeks and would only reset the following year. The gist of it is that you can only spend 3 months in Macedonia each year without a Macedonian passport. I don't know how true this is but it seems plausible given the level of blatant open corruption I saw there.
My point is, as I pointed out to my cousins, I have no need for a Macedonian passport as I have an Australian passport which basically allows me to travel anywhere in the world.
The point is, and if this is true, that this just goes to show the mentality of the bureaucrats in the country, let's fleece the foreigners, the diaspora out of a couple of hundred euros. My counter argument would be that if I wanted to spend a year in Macedonia obviously I've got the finances to do so, my spending would be pumping money into the economy and during that year I would obviously be spending a lot more money than the initial couple of hundred euro to get a Macedonian passport, as stated I do not need one as I have an Australian passport. The bureaucrats obviously can't see the bigger and longer picture and are thinking in the short term.
I thought it was pretty much standard practice in most places around the world that a tourist visa is valid for 3 months...and I also thought that if you left the country and returned within that 3 month period that it would reset...

(I'm not suggesting for a moment that Macedonia fits any of the accepted visa conventions found in the civilised world...that would require following rules of law and suitably qualified individuals operating within the law...)
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Old 05-10-2017, 05:02 PM   #23
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I thought it was pretty much standard practice in most places around the world that a tourist visa is valid for 3 months...and I also thought that if you left the country and returned within that 3 month period that it would reset...

(I'm not suggesting for a moment that Macedonia fits any of the accepted visa conventions found in the civilised world...that would require following rules of law and suitably qualified individuals operating within the law...)
That kind of explains why I have been a little bit ignorant about this requirement to report yourself to the police when in Macedonia. Otherwise I would have clued up to it sooner or later I guess. My stays in Macedonia have always been 3 months or less, the amount of time my visa was valid for.

Just in regards to Spirit's encounter with the dodgy police officer, I can't stop thinking about that and it really pisses me off. The police, like all public servants, are employed by the state and receive a tax-funded wage or salary. If Australia is something to go by, public servants are there to serve the people and receive a wage/salary for those services from the government. They should not be charging fees from the public (i.e. naïve tourists) for every form they process or administer to subsidise their poor pay. That is their job and that is what they get paid for by the government. So my advice is to be aware of this when in Macedonia as I imagine the same rule applies for Macedonian public servants. People should be reporting these bastards. Once Macedonian public servants start losing their jobs over unethical behaviour then maybe they will learn the hard way that this is not on.
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:25 PM   #24
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China is a pain in the arse with all it's tracking of individuals. But every one of their customs entry points allows you to rank the officer letting you into their country from sad face all the way through to happy face.

I remember going into Macedonia once and being questioned thoroughly as to why I was going there. I told them my entire family had dedicated themselves to Macedonia and this was meant to be a visit to my homeland. I might as well have said because I am Greek and I want to go to your shit casino in Epinal. The response was some pathetic grunt and a stamp in the passport. Peasants.
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After reading all of your stories, I consider myself lucky. The only fee I had to pay at the border was 1 or 2 euros for the mandatory health insurance.

BTW Australian passport holders can visit Macedonia for 90 days within any 180 day period. Anything beyond that would require permission or a visa.
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I might as well have said because I am Greek and I want to go to your shit casino in Epinal.
Hey, what's your beef with the Bellagio of Bitola anyway? I'll have you know that Epinal is the pride of Bitola and we don't take too kindly to outsiders rubbishing our cultural treasures.

http://www.hotelepinal.com/
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The Bellagio of Bitola lol.
Maybe when the taps let go and a fountain is created .... sure!

My most distinct memory of that place was how pathetic the staff were when the Greeks gave them shit. One idiot parked his car (Greek number plates) right where all the cars needed access. He left it there and repeatedly told the staff where to go when they kindly asked him to move it.

My friend (Macedonian from Australia) threatened to burn the car and then he moved it promptly. A great night for all.
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