Velika Popovska 64 year old woman turned away from Greek border 10th July 2012

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

I regret Angliski's departure. It was starting to be fun watching him squirm around the fundamental injustices perpetrated against the Macedonians. He could't really cope with the scrutiny.

What a bullshit artist he was...

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Tomche Makedonche

Angliski: Кучината да се посерат на мајкати пичката за што ти роди….just jokes

...lol...it just wouldn't have the same impact in English.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

What a bullshit artist he was...

I still like to think that deep down, it wasn't Angliski, it was the 'soul balm' talking.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I still like to think that deep down, it wasn't Angliski, it was the 'soul balm' talking.

I'm starting to think that 'soul-balm' isn't something that you smoke, but moreso something that you rub on your arse first thing in the morning, after a lonely night in one of those goat infested hilltop villages in the peloponnese...perhaps this is the reason why 'Angliski' was such a fan of "forgetting"...

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I'm starting to think that 'soul-balm' isn't something that you smoke, but moreso something that you rub on your arse first thing in the morning, after a lonely night in one of those goat infested hilltop villages in the peloponnese...perhaps this is the reason why 'Angliski' was such a fan of "forgetting"...

It could be one of those multi-purpose weeds used to balance mind, soul and rectum.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

It could be one of those multi-purpose weeds used to balance mind, soul and rectum.

I think you could be onto something there Vangelovski, sounds like one of those marketing angles used at Sexpo...

[julie]

Spoke to mum a few hours ago.

She wanted to thank RTG for posting on my behalf when my computer pooped itself (worst timing), AMHRC who are in contact with mum, and to each and every Macedonian, for their moral support , thanked me and my brother for our support, and all we have tried to do for her .

She cried so much, its heartbreaking feeling so helpless, and I broke down and cried with her
She said to me that she wishes she was a small bird that could fly over her village, her family home, and around her relatives, to see her home before she dies, it is her strongest wish, and words cannot describe the devastation she is feeling. This overseas trip has been a nightmare for her. She fell off her roof cleaning her gutters, is extremely houseproud, typical Macedonian woman, broke her leg and ankle in several places last year, operated on and hospitalised for periods due to a chronic infection setting in and in a wheelchair for 6 months

Hears her sister is terminally ill, goes overseas, thanks to the stupid Oz gov taking so long to process all their stupid documentation, to have her sister die in her arms 5 days later, then just to top it all off with a cherry on top, is seen as some terrorist espionage murderous spy and denied entry to her home

Once again, an aged woman , all of 5 foot nothing, petite in frame, and tiny, never had any political involvement or political activism, and was an upstanding citizen in all the communities she has lived in , with voluntary support and community service, last 5 years in aged care - PLEASE can someone tell me , what threat to national security would she possibly pose?

She is kind and loving, loves her children and all of her grandchildren, loves her family, her garden, and the beach - where is there in that that would pose a political threat or act of terrorism all the way across the world, when all she wants to do is see her birthplace and come home to all of her family.

Tomche Makedonche, bless you bro, I thought the same thing about requesting Angliski posts be removed, then thought better of it. Let it remain for all time, to show what heartless, fascist FOPOGS are like , the way Macedonians are mocked and ridiculed and belittled, something for the whole world to see

Cannot wait to send this link to the European Union, this is disgusting, their cradle of democracy, their bullshit little made up fake Greek state that STOLE our country, murdered, raped, napalmed Kostur in Aegean civil war (thanks USA FUCK YOU we are not your guinea pigs for testing) - Vujna's family died thanks to them on one side - STOLE our flag, our national 16 ray Macedonian sun, and want to STEAL OUR NAME, now STEAL property cannot return to anyway

need to recoin that phrase - beware of greeks bearing gifts, how about beware of anyone that calls himself a greek, unscrupulous lying THIEVES

[julie]

AMHRC ROCK

Just received a phone call, seems Department Foreign affairs WILL be investigating this
Pity though mum's flight from Belgrade leaves in a few hours via Paris for 3 days

On her return Wednesday, she will have relevant paperwork signed and here is hoping Greece will think twice before turning someone else away and blacklisting them

Apparently another Melbourne couple were turned away at the border today

How many more tears must we shed, the begaltsi, the Aegean Macedonians???

God bless the AMHRC, who work so hard for our basic human rights, will forever be indebted to them for there hard work

[Kosturski Orel]

Originally Posted by julie

At the border there were RoM media - mum asked them to do a piece in their newspapers to which the yugodonians replied ......"odi isplachise na Belgrad" - go and tell your tears to Belgrade

I have read this whole thread from cover to cover and aside from the interlude with a certain chap who sounded like he had swallowed industrial quantities of hard drugs that has robbed me a couple hours of my life that I shall never get back again, of all the misfortune suffered by your poor mum Julie, the above episode is what disturbed me the most.

Yeah, it is upsetting that your mum got turned away at the border - but sadly, she is not the first and she will not be the last. Greece has a massive chip on their shoulder.

I also get that it is upsetting that the border guards at Negochani are nashi in the service of FTCOY...that is hard to swallow too...but they are Grkomani, so I do not expect any help or sympathy from them.

The part that really freaks me out is that your mother was treated so callously by the Macedonian journalists in Bitola. "Go cry your tears to Belgrade???" I mean, WTF???

I understand that many Vardarci hated Egejci back in the day for the same reason that Bogans in Australia hate boat people ("they are stealing our jobs and are getting free housing from the government"), but I would have thought that after sixty three years that the Egejci have so thoroughly intigrated into Macedonian society that it simply would not be an issue anymore?

Maybe I am wrong.

But that above incident has left a very sour taste in my mouth.

We are all on the same side here...we are all Macedonian for heavens sake.

I don't know what the solution is, but there really needs to be some kind of comprehensive education program in the Republic as to the plight of Aegean Macedonians...perhaps then idiots like the above wouldn't make such insensitive remarks...especially to a grieving old woman.

[julie]

Thank you Kosturski Orel for your kind words, and everyones support here, mum is aware of it, and when she returns will be posting her gratitude under my name in Macedonian.

Kosturski Orel, it is known the border guards are our own people. The saddest part of this all is that we are our own worst enemies, we don't need the outside world, our oppressors, the west to divide us - our enemies come from within - the grkomani, srbomani and the bugarfiles, that continue to divide us as a nation.