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  • makgerman
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 145

    #76
    Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
    The Rainbow Party totally aligns with Soros, it is anti-nationalistic and pro-minorities.
    It looks like it. He denies it but his latest comments lead towards the Soros goal of globalisation.

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    • Risto the Great
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      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      #77
      Sure, Soros would be happy for ethnic Macedonians of Greece to undermine Greece. So I can see how it might fit into a minority mentality. Naturally it is of no use to Macedonians in the Republic. Either way, Soros and Co and pretty much everyone else couldn't give a rat's arse about Macedonians anywhere.
      Risto the Great
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      • makgerman
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 145

        #78
        I agree that it's of no use to the Macedonians in the republic, but I was surprised to hear it from the Macedonians in Greece.

        I was under the impression that they are fighting to achieve what we already have in Macedonia.

        Was I wrong! It appears it is more important for the Macedonians in Greece to become recognised as a minority in the EU and in Macedonia becoming a EU/NATO at any cost - accepting everything all of our neighbours are asking for.

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        • Skolovranec
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 52

          #79
          Whatever support this country has from local politicians needs to be cut sharp and dry immediately. And the focus should shift to another group, no matter how smaller, who has better system of values and interests.
          Anti-EU Pro-Guns National-Libertarian Trekkie Minarchist
          Anti-NATO Pro-United MK Agnostic Secularist Magick Occultist
          Anti-UN Pro-Military Meritocratic Integrationist Altruistic Socio-Darwinist
          Anti-Globalist Pro-Choice Intellectual Pirate Spiritual Vagabond

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          • vicsinad
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 2337

            #80
            Zaev the Saint...

            He has come to save "disastrous" Macedonia. One western official say that he is the best chance Macedonia ever had...



            Like most of its Balkan neighbors, the country of around 2 million people is among Europe’s poorest and suffers from deeply entrenched organized crime, widespread corruption and weak rule of law.

            But Zaev, a 42-year-old businessman who has never held high office, also faces challenges unique to Macedonia. These include a dispute with neighboring Greece over the country’s name that has blocked its path to the EU and NATO, disagreements with Bulgaria over history and language, tenuous relations between the two largest ethnic groups and a public administration stuffed with officials loyal to the last government.

            “Politicians in the past have shown that they abuse the system,” Zaev told POLITICO in his office in the capital, Skopje, sitting in front of a floor-to-ceiling pastoral painting of four maidens at a water fountain — a leftover from his predecessor’s neoclassical makeover of the building.

            “I am hoping we will organize society in a different way, with more democracy, more freedom, and more justice.”

            Zaev, who served three terms as mayor of the eastern city of Strumica, will need a lot more than hope to make progress. But he has already shown considerable perseverance to get this far. He came to power after a protracted political crisis culminated in April with supporters of the old nationalist-led government storming the parliament and attacking lawmakers, including Zaev, who was left with blood streaming down his face from a head wound.

            The violence prompted a change of course by President Gjorge Ivanov, who had refused for months to appoint Zaev prime minister even though he had put together a majority coalition after a parliamentary election. Ivanov had cited fears that Zaev would make too many concessions to Macedonia’s ethnic Albanian minority but he finally let the Social Democrat leader form a government in May.

            Zaev himself triggered the crisis — the worst since Macedonia narrowly avoided all-out civil war in 2001 — when he released wiretapped recordings in 2015 that he said were made by state intelligence officials. The wiretaps contained apparent evidence of high-level officials discussing election tampering, corruption, and even a murder cover-up. Thousands of people staged street protests, outraged by the revelations and by the fact the government had been tapping more than 20,000 phone lines.

            “The political crisis showed the disastrous state of our society,” Zaev said.

            “There are no more secrets in our society. Everybody knows the weaknesses in the judiciary, in state institutions, in the security system, in media … all these checks and balances — every normal country has it. We don’t really have it.”
            Name claim

            Zaev, an economist by training, has put forward a series of reforms to strengthen Macedonia’s democratic institutions, which international organizations, including the EU, say were severely undermined during the decade-long rule of the previous prime minister, Nikola Gruevski.

            The reforms are also meant to allow Macedonia to open EU accession negotiations after nine months.

            Western powers clearly wish Zaev well. One Western diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the new premier “the best chance this country has ever had.”

            To achieve his goals, however, Zaev will need to solve a problem that has dogged Macedonia ever since it broke away from collapsing communist Yugoslavia in 1991 — Greece’s objection to the country’s name.

            As a region of northern Greece is called Macedonia, Athens argues that Skopje’s use of the name implies a claim on its territory. Greeks are also angry that Skopje lays claim to figures such as Philip of Macedon and Alexander the Great, historically considered part of Greek culture.

            Gruevski’s government chose to defy Athens by ordering a huge makeover of Skopje with neoclassical facades and naming chunks of infrastructure such as the main airport and a highway after Alexander the Great.

            Zaev says he is ready to make concessions if Athens is ready to drop its opposition to Macedonia’s membership of the EU and NATO.



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            SKOPJE, Macedonia — Even by regional standards, Macedonia’s new Prime Minister Zoran Zaev has a daunting to-do list.
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            Like most of its Balkan neighbors, the country of around 2 million people is among Europe’s poorest and suffers from deeply entrenched organized crime, widespread corruption and weak rule of law.

            But Zaev, a 42-year-old businessman who has never held high office, also faces challenges unique to Macedonia. These include a dispute with neighboring Greece over the country’s name that has blocked its path to the EU and NATO, disagreements with Bulgaria over history and language, tenuous relations between the two largest ethnic groups and a public administration stuffed with officials loyal to the last government.

            “Politicians in the past have shown that they abuse the system,” Zaev told POLITICO in his office in the capital, Skopje, sitting in front of a floor-to-ceiling pastoral painting of four maidens at a water fountain — a leftover from his predecessor’s neoclassical makeover of the building.

            “I am hoping we will organize society in a different way, with more democracy, more freedom, and more justice.”

            Zaev, who served three terms as mayor of the eastern city of Strumica, will need a lot more than hope to make progress. But he has already shown considerable perseverance to get this far. He came to power after a protracted political crisis culminated in April with supporters of the old nationalist-led government storming the parliament and attacking lawmakers, including Zaev, who was left with blood streaming down his face from a head wound.

            Zaev says he is ready to make concessions if Athens is ready to drop its opposition to Macedonia’s membership of the EU and NATO.

            The violence prompted a change of course by President Gjorge Ivanov, who had refused for months to appoint Zaev prime minister even though he had put together a majority coalition after a parliamentary election. Ivanov had cited fears that Zaev would make too many concessions to Macedonia’s ethnic Albanian minority but he finally let the Social Democrat leader form a government in May.

            Zaev himself triggered the crisis — the worst since Macedonia narrowly avoided all-out civil war in 2001 — when he released wiretapped recordings in 2015 that he said were made by state intelligence officials. The wiretaps contained apparent evidence of high-level officials discussing election tampering, corruption, and even a murder cover-up. Thousands of people staged street protests, outraged by the revelations and by the fact the government had been tapping more than 20,000 phone lines.

            “The political crisis showed the disastrous state of our society,” Zaev said.

            “There are no more secrets in our society. Everybody knows the weaknesses in the judiciary, in state institutions, in the security system, in media … all these checks and balances — every normal country has it. We don’t really have it.”
            Name claim

            Zaev, an economist by training, has put forward a series of reforms to strengthen Macedonia’s democratic institutions, which international organizations, including the EU, say were severely undermined during the decade-long rule of the previous prime minister, Nikola Gruevski.

            The reforms are also meant to allow Macedonia to open EU accession negotiations after nine months.

            Western powers clearly wish Zaev well. One Western diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, called the new premier “the best chance this country has ever had.”

            Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov and his Macedonian counterpart Zoran Zaev, in Sofia | Nikolay Doychinova/AFP via Getty Images

            To achieve his goals, however, Zaev will need to solve a problem that has dogged Macedonia ever since it broke away from collapsing communist Yugoslavia in 1991 — Greece’s objection to the country’s name.

            As a region of northern Greece is called Macedonia, Athens argues that Skopje’s use of the name implies a claim on its territory. Greeks are also angry that Skopje lays claim to figures such as Philip of Macedon and Alexander the Great, historically considered part of Greek culture.

            Gruevski’s government chose to defy Athens by ordering a huge makeover of Skopje with neoclassical facades and naming chunks of infrastructure such as the main airport and a highway after Alexander the Great.

            Zaev says he is ready to make concessions if Athens is ready to drop its opposition to Macedonia’s membership of the EU and NATO.

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            “If the Greek side is really prepared to help us, we are prepared to think about everything that will be helpful,” he said. “I am not fixed on any issue so everything is possible.”

            Zaev also wants to improve relations with Bulgaria by signing a “friendship agreement” when Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov visits early next month.

            Macedonia and Bulgaria share linguistic and cultural similarities but also hold differing views of their history and language. Bulgaria does not recognize the Macedonian language, viewing it as a dialect of Bulgarian, and the countries’ historical records differ over whether ancient leaders were ethnically Bulgarian or Macedonian.

            The government has presented a draft of the accord to a closed session of parliament, but not yet to the public — an illustration of the tension between Zaev’s desire to make quick progress and his pledge to make politics more transparent.

            Zaev said the agreement would not damage the country in any way but make Bulgaria “more dedicated” to friendship. This would make Sofia a staunch advocate for Macedonia when Bulgaria assumes the presidency of the Council of the EU in January 2018, he argued.

            “Accepting common history in the agreement is no danger for any country and no danger for us,” he said.
            Hurdles at home

            Things are hardly more straightforward on the domestic front.

            Zaev said that, upon assuming office, his government found almost a billion euros in previously unreported debt and many of his staff’s offices had been stripped of computers, tables and chairs.

            In parliament, VMRO-DPMNE, the former governing party, has split its 51 MPs into 10 parliamentary groups in order to obstruct debate over reforms such as a new budget and the appointment of a chief prosecutor.

            The fate of a special prosecutor’s office, set up to investigate the wiretap revelations as part of an EU-brokered effort to end the political crisis back in 2015, also hangs in the balance.

            Meanwhile, Zaev is facing pressure from coalition partners who represent the ethnic Albanian minority — estimated to make up around a quarter of the population — to fulfill a pledge increase the official use of the Albanian language.

            The new prime minister must also try to free state institutions from the control of officials who got their jobs thanks to their close links to VMRO-DPMNE, while at the same time resisting the temptation to replace them with his own party cronies.

            “The new government has the task of reforming, or separating the party from the state in both the judiciary and the administration, which is not easy considering that the public sector is the biggest employer in the country,” said Simonida Kacarska, director of the Skopje-based European Policy Institute think tank.

            Nikola Poposki, a VMRO-DPMNE MP who served previously as foreign minister, cautioned that Zaev had “overpromised” and faced a big challenge to “adjust the expectations of voters” in a highly polarized political environment.

            But for now, Zaev is choosing to look on the bright side. He hailed the fact that Macedonia managed to reach an agreement with Bulgaria on its own, without mediation from outsiders, which has been the norm in recent decades in the Balkans.

            “We are very proud … that we will send a message to the world,” he said. “There is a capacity of politicians, when they want to, to find a solution for those kinds of sensitive problems.”

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            • Tomche Makedonche
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1123

              #81
              A thaw in relations? Macedonian prime minister sees in the New Year in Greece

              Greece has been at loggerheads with its northern neighbor for decades over the name Macedonia. The Macedonian PM headed to Thessaloniki for a New Year visit. While unofficial, it's seen as a sign of rapprochement.


              A thaw in relations? Macedonian prime minister sees in the New Year in Greece

              Greece has been at loggerheads with its northern neighbor for decades over the name Macedonia. The Macedonian PM headed to Thessaloniki for a New Year visit. While unofficial, it's seen as a sign of rapprochement.

              Zoran Zaev, the Prime Minister of Macedonia, is coming to visit Yiannis Boutaris, the mayor of Thessaloniki. Given the tension that has existed for years between Greece and Macedonia, this sounds like a historic moment. One that should be celebrated – officially, with big receptions, joint public appearances, and the press in attendance.

              But Zaev isn't traveling to the province of Macedonia in northern Greece on official business. He's just there as Zoran, come to see in the New Year with his Greek friend Yiannis. The public and the press are not invited.

              Zaev's historic visit begins with the arrival of his plane at Makedonia Airport. The fact that this Greek airport bears the name of the country next door is an indication of the conflict potential inherent in an ordinary state visit. Because officially, as far as Greece is concerned, there is no state called Macedonia. This is the basis of the dispute between the two neighbors: It has gone on for 26 years now, and has had far-reaching consequences.

              Conflict around both name and culture

              After the disintegration of Yugoslavia, a new republic was founded in 1991 calling itself Macedonia. In Greece, the neighboring province has long gone by the same name, and Athens took it as an affront. A cultural war has been simmering between the two countries ever since, and is part of the reason why Greece continues to block Macedonia from joining the EU and NATO.

              Read more: Aspiring NATO member Macedonia angles for membership invite in 2018

              When Macedonia became a member of the United Nations in 1993, it could only do so by agreeing, as a compromise, to be referred to as the FYROM – the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. This ensured that the country gained international recognition, but it did not resolve the conflict with Greece.

              The nationalistic agitation continues on both sides. Skopje claims Alexander the Great was Macedonian, not Greek. There are even ultra-nationalist voices that describe Thessaloniki as an occupied city. At the same time, the Greek side accuses its northern neighbor of cultural theft, saying it is putting together an artificial cultural identity by stealing bits of Greek history and completely ignoring the fact that it is actually part of the Balkans. You will search in vain for directions to Macedonia on the motorways of northern Greece: Signposts indicating the road to the border are marked instead with "Skopja."

              A change of tone in Macedonia

              However, since Macedonia's right-wing nationalist Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski was voted out last summer, the tone of the discussion has changed. Whereas Gruevski erected monuments to Alexander the Great in the capital, his successor, the social democrat Zaev, has been conciliatory towards Greece, speaking of an amicable relationship and seeking political and cultural compromise. Naturally, he hopes this will lead to more than just a good relationship. Macedonia's economy is in a bad way. Unemployment is high, and the political situation with its neighbors Albania, Serbia and Bulgaria is also a difficult one. Zaev wants to achieve his country's long-held ambition of accession to the European Union and NATO, in order finally to regain some stability.

              Both memberships would presumably clarify the situation in the Balkans. For one thing, NATO membership would definitively bind Macedonia to the West, thereby thwarting Moscow. And EU accession would get the country out of a political and economic rut. All of this would benefit the region as a whole, where cross-border crises keep on flaring up.

              Greece, which is still struggling with economic and political crises, ought to show the same degree of interest. However, for the most part Athens still seems to be adamant on the name issue. In particular the leader of the opposition, Kyriakos Mitsotakis of the conservative New Democracy party, hopes that this attitude will win more votes from the national-conservative camp in the 2019 parliamentary election. Yet it was his father, Konstantinos Mitsotakis, the Greek prime minister from 1990 to 1993, who tried to achieve a workable compromise for both sides by suggesting alternative names for Greece's neighbor, such as North Macedonia.

              Thessaloniki as mediator

              The Greek Prime Minister, Alexis Tsipras, is keeping quiet on the matter. For some years Tsipras has at least advocated a policy of openness to the Balkans, in the hope that this would bring economic and strategic advantages. So far, though, he has excluded Macedonia, primarily at the urging of his coalition partner, the right-wing populist Independent Greeks (ANEL), who remain intransigent on the naming issue.

              Thessaloniki itself is a good example of what life could be like for Greece and Macedonia as a whole if the two countries were on good terms. The common border is just 40 minutes from the city by car. On weekends, large numbers of visitors cross from Macedonia to go shopping in Greece's second-largest city. In the summer they holiday on the Chalkidiki peninsula. For this reason alone, Thessaloniki's Mayor Boutaris, whose unideological politics are geared toward economic growth, is keen to remain on good terms with Macedonia. Just a few weeks ago he travelled to Skopje to exchange ideas for joint projects. The fact that Macedonia's Prime Minister Zaev is now visiting him in Thessaloniki indicates considerable interest in a long-term rapprochement.
              “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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              • Tomche Makedonche
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1123

                #82
                Macedonia Says It's Ready To Give Up Claim As Sole Heir To Alexander The Great

                Macedonia's prime minister says he is ready to renounce his country's claim to be the sole heir of Alexander the Great’s legacy, a potential concession that could lead to the easing of a long-standing dispute with Greece.


                Macedonia Says It's Ready To Give Up Claim As Sole Heir To Alexander The Great's Legacy

                Macedonia's prime minister says he is ready to renounce his country's claim to be the sole heir of Alexander the Great’s legacy, a potential concession that could lead to the easing of a long-standing dispute with Greece.

                "I give up [the claim] of Macedonia being the sole heir to Alexander,” Prime Minister Zoran Zaev told TV station Telma in an interview late on December 22.

                “The history belongs not only to us, but also to Greece and many other countries,” the left-leaning prime minister added.

                Alexander the Great is the famed ruler of the ancient Kingdom of Macedonia.

                Greece has objected to Skopje's use of the name “Macedonia” since its independence from Yugoslavia in 1991, arguing that it implies territorial ambitions on the part of the country.

                Athens’ objections have complicated Skopje's aspirations to join NATO and the European Union.

                Greece in 2008 blocked Macedonia's bid to join NATO under its provisional name of Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) because of the dispute.

                Zaev did not indicate how or if the country’s name would change if it were to give up the claim as Alexander’s sole heir.

                Macedonia’s former conservative government pushed the use of the name, naming the country's main highway and airport after Alexander and building a 28-meter-high monument in Skopje's main square.

                Former Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski blamed his VMRO-DPMNE party's fall from power on his refusal to compromise with Athens in the dispute. Gruevski has stepped down as party leader and was replaced by technocrat Hristijan Mickoski at the party convention on December 22.

                Matthew Nimetz, the United Nations special representative for the naming dispute, said on December 12 that the issue “can and should be resolved” next year after the parties met for the first time in three years in Brussels.

                Nimetz, a U.S. diplomat who is the personal envoy of UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, said after a meeting with Greek and Macedonian envoys that “the atmosphere is a much better one and from both Skopje and Athens there is an indication that we should make an intensive effort to resolve this issue that has been outstanding for so many years.”

                In his interview, Zaev also said he was optimistic Macedonia would be rewarded for its reform process with an invitation soon to begin EU membership talks.

                “If we continue with reforms at a good pace, Macedonia will get a date for starting negotiations with the EU at the June summit,” he said.
                “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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                • mklion
                  Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 100

                  #83
                  I wonder if they greeted him at the airport with a FYROM banner.

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                  • Amphipolis
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1328

                    #84
                    Zaev is indeed in town, as a guest of our Mayor. I can't verify he came by plane, but I can tell you he stays at... Macedonia Palace, the biggest hotel of the city.

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                    • Soldier of Macedon
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 13669

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
                      Zaev is indeed in town, as a guest of our Mayor. I can't verify he came by plane, but I can tell you he stays at... Macedonia Palace, the biggest hotel of the city.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS6t3qImTnU
                      Heaps of Greeks must love this idiot. All one hears from those maggot reporters is Skopje this and Skopje that, I wonder if this moron even presented himself as the PM of Macedonia or entered slave-mode and presented himself as PM of Skopje instead.
                      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                      • Karposh
                        Member
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 863

                        #86
                        This article is either purposely misleading or naively misleading. It has never been about giving up claim as “sole” heir to Alexander's legacy but ANY claim to Alexander's legacy.

                        It is purposely misleading in that it puts the blame squarely on the Republic of Macedonia for Greece's intransigence. That is to say, it is because Macedonia is selfishly monopolising the heritage of the Ancient Macedonians when Greece too has a chunk of Macedonia, the biggest chunk of all in fact.

                        It is naively misleading in that it suggests this is the only reason for Greece's intransigence. Nothing else would make sense otherwise. Never mind the sizeable population inside Greek borders who identify as ethnic Macedonians which the Greek authorities are desperately trying to hide. Such people do not exist and they could never exist as they would be an ever present threat to Greek sovereignty. Sweeping them under the carpet and disguising them as an insignificant bunch of Slavophone Greeks is their best solution it would seem. And if anyone asks? - “Sure we have Macedonians. Greek Macedonians. Two and half million of them as a matter of fact. It would be an insult to them to see the Slavs of Skopja steal their Macedonian heritage (which goes back a whole 100 years)”. Got to hand it to the Greeks though, renaming their Pontic refugees as “Greek Macedonians” was a master stroke. A cunningly duplicitous term, specifically engineered to deceive and confuse. Well done.

                        No, it has never been about giving up claim as sole heir to the heritage of the Ancient Macedonians, as if this is what the whole argument has been about all this time. It has always been about giving up any and all claims to the name Macedonia and our identity as Macedonians.

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                        • Starling
                          Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 153

                          #87
                          Greece has always played the 'but you're appropriating our culture' card and what others play along with most often. The more we deconstruct that, the better. There will never bee enough articles deconstructing this one.

                          A lengthy list of all the cultures they've appropriated or where all their stuff comes from would pair very nicely. A lot of the people who've made this claim to me keep trying to pass off Cyprus as part of Greece, for example. one of them even made this bullshit analogy about it passing themselves off as the victims. Completely delusional.

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                          • Phoenix
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4671

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Karposh View Post
                            ...Got to hand it to the Greeks though, renaming their Pontic refugees as “Greek Macedonians” was a master stroke. A cunningly duplicitous term, specifically engineered to deceive and confuse. Well done...
                            Master stroke indeed...it has been the rebranding of an otherwise nondescript and much maligned mass of people...a social stop-gap solution to a demographic problem that is now showing signs of success for the 'greeks'.

                            I am amazed by the brazen nature of the 'greeks' to import millions of people from Asia Minor and turn them into 'Greek Macedonians' but then to have the audacity to claim that Tito created us.

                            With the Pontic refugees the 'greeks' had a malleable product that could be shaped into any form. The refugees were never accepted as true 'greeks' but now they have found their little niche to gain acceptance and a new identity.

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13669

                              #89
                              "I give up [the claim] of Macedonia being the sole heir to Alexander,” Prime Minister Zoran Zaev told TV station Telma in an interview late on December 22.
                              A politician does not have the right to give up Macedonia's claim to any of its historical figures.
                              “The history belongs not only to us, but also to Greece and many other countries,” the left-leaning prime minister added.
                              Interesting statement. Will any Greek politician reciprocate and say the same?
                              Macedonia’s former conservative government pushed the use of the name, naming the country's main highway and airport after Alexander and building a 28-meter-high monument in Skopje's main square.
                              Pushed the use of the name? Successive Greek regimes have also put up statues of Alexander and used the Macedonian name for facilities and regions. Unfortunately, successive Macedonian governments have been too spineless to raise this for discussion.
                              Matthew Nimetz, the United Nations special representative for the naming dispute, said on December 12 that the issue “can and should be resolved” next year after the parties met for the first time in three years in Brussels.
                              Is this useless bonehead still slithering about?
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • Karposh
                                Member
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 863

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                                A politician does not have the right to give up Macedonia's claim to any of its historical figures.
                                Gligorov's, now infamous, statement to the Greeks immediately springs to mind. No doubt, the Greeks are hoping history will be repeated in Zaev.

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