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Old 01-23-2018, 08:08 PM   #111
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Another possibility:

Federal Balkan Republic with two entities - Republic of Macedonia and Republic of Ilirida.

http://kurir.mk/makedonija/vesti/dvi...dlog-za-imeto/

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Meanwhile, Selmani wants every Macedonian to learn Albanian. I suppose that makes sense - bilingualism is too hard and expensive. This way it'll be much easier to integrate Albanians. What a clever grand strategy - just like Gligorov's around the name, which is clearly entering the final phase now.

http://kurir.mk/makedonija/vesti/sel...t-jazik-video/
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:21 PM   #112
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Another possibility:

Federal Balkan Republic with two entities - Republic of Macedonia and Republic of Ilirida.

http://kurir.mk/makedonija/vesti/dvi...dlog-za-imeto/

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Lol... No dice, way too soon for that kind of solution, give bilingualism 20 to 30 years and I’d say the Albanians might jump on board (provided some resistant Macedonians still exist and continue to speak their language by then). Proposing this now caters to the typical kind of wishful thinking of a European Slav... not to mention the Greeks would still oppose the name of the Macedonian federal entity
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:09 PM   #113
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by introducing the bill zz has planted a seed in the shiptari's minds. this was totally unnecessary.

they now consider it mandatory to have Albanian in the everyday lives of Macedonians.
it didn't take long for zaev to sell out the Macedonians.

Should I go there one day, I might need an interpreter when I go to a Macedonian kafana to read from the menu.
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:02 AM   #114
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by introducing the bill zz has planted a seed in the shiptari's minds. this was totally unnecessary.

they now consider it mandatory to have Albanian in the everyday lives of Macedonians.
it didn't take long for zaev to sell out the Macedonians.

Should I go there one day, I might need an interpreter when I go to a Macedonian kafana to read from the menu.
I doubt there will be any Macedonian cafanas left by the next time you visit New Macedonia.

The maco youth are emigrating on mass, this law will accelerate this process as job opportunities will open up for Albanians in New Macedonia in order to accomodate this law. Add the below replacement birth rates for our people, we will lose the state faster than people think.

Maybe it's time for the remaining Macedonians to consider creating a Macedonian state based on borders where we are currently the majority before the above happens.

We are now ruled by Albanians and leftist globalists which is clearly an anti Macedonian government which will implement policies that will ultimately cleanse our people from the current lands.
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:04 AM   #115
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If the language law goes through, it won't be too long when the demand for new flag, anthem and coat of arms will be put forward.
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:23 AM   #116
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Quote from article:

“Those who read this article, should later forget it. It is not good to have these images floating around in your head, especially now, when we're a step closer to good neighbourly relations.”

I'm sure the author was being flippant here, not to mention a touch sarcastic too. No Macedonian should ever forget what was done to these poor souls. In fact, I recommend everyone make a copy of this incredible document and learn it well. Not so much to inspire hate but to, hopefully, honour the fallen by never allowing these atrocities to ever be forgotten.
This event occurred in what is today greece, and yet next to nobody in greece would know that it occurred. We know what will happen to text books in new fyrom with the aim being for nobody in new fyrom to know that it occurred.

Lest the diaspora forget
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:43 AM   #117
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Its amazing how the greeks portray themselves as the aggrieved ones from the recent protests.

This was organised by the priests and golden dawn. The most corrupt criminal groups in existence outside of jails.

A (greek) article writes about protests in Melbourne the other day. They refer to it a silent demonstration. They referred to some Macedonians yelling at them from the side as FYROM nationals.
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Old 01-24-2018, 04:38 AM   #118
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This event occurred in what is today greece, and yet next to nobody in greece would know that it occurred.
Oh, they know about it alright. They know very well what went on back then and they are proud of it. The sick and twisted murderers that did these unspeakable acts are seen as heroes in Greece, their so called Makedonomachoi. The recent demonstration in Solun had countless malakas dressed up as their heroes and celebrating their feats.

And, inevitably, when confronted by descriptions of these heroic acts that their “Macedonian Fighters” made on the defenceless civilian Macedonian peasant population, every Greek instinctively absolves himself of any collective guilt by reasoning that it was all tit for tat – The Bulgarians killed ours and we killed theirs. It's as simple as that apparently in their bigoted fascist Greek minds.

Among the horrible descriptions of the massacre (which I'm purposely leaving out for the sake of conciseness), here is what the consul McGregor had to say in a letter describing this event to the English Ambassador in Turkey:

“... I have to say there is a clear difference between the massacre in Zagorichani and the assassinations carried out by the exarchates against patriarchates because while the former almost without fail pick out their victims among individuals who are known or suspected of being guilty of treason, the Greeks, it would seem, are not interested in any other motive other than to kill as many exarchates as they can.”
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This was organised by the priests and golden dawn. The most corrupt criminal groups in existence outside of jails.
I don't think you get it. This was not organized by the Church or Golden Dawn. (Golden Dawn is not allowed to organise Open Space Events in the last 3 or 4 years). The tricky part is that all major parties AND the Church/Archbishop disapproved the idea of rallies, disencouraged the people from attending and also tried to defame it. The right-wing parties stayed quiet.

One day before it, all major media were trying to scare people out suggesting there would be a major counter-rally by leftists-anarchists and a fear of violence.

The rally was organized by nobodies with a bizarre choice of 5 speakers: two unknown journalists, an unknown priest, a... genius, (i.e. a man who presents himself as the Greek with the highest IQ and one of the highest in the world, he works in several sciences and arts and lately in geopolitics) and lastly the most famous one, retired general Frangos Frangoulis.

State TV did not cover the event and expected a crowd of around 30k, presented it as fascist or nationalistic. Anthimos said to the people that they can go (he wasn’t very enthusiastic), and maybe he'll go there too (disobeying the Archbishop).

When the first signs of success appeared everybody turned out, all local New Democracy MPs attended, (Golden Dawn and ANEL of course), Anthimos not only was present, but he was sitting at a... throne (?) and the crowd was 90k to 500k depending on which side the estimators were.

It is now discussed that Frangoulis may lead a new party.

The point is that two weeks ago MPS were likely 80%-20% FOR a compromising agreement when the opinion polls were the opposite around 20%-80%. That will bring changes.

State TV has already apologised for not covering the event.

Church has announced that only 8 out of 90 Bishops attended it.

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Old 01-24-2018, 06:09 AM   #120
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I don't think you get it. This was not organized by the Church or Golden Dawn. (Golden Dawn is not allowed to organise Open Space Events in the last 3 or 4 years). The tricky part is that all major parties AND the Church/Archbishop disapproved the idea of rallies, disencouraged the people from attending and also tried to defame it. The right-wing parties stayed quiet.

One day before it, all major media were trying to scare people out suggesting there would be a major counter-rally by leftists-anarchists and a fear of violence.

The rally was organized by nobodies with a bizarre choice of 5 speakers: two unknown journalists, an unknown priest, a... genius, (i.e. a man who presents himself as the Greek with the highest IQ and one of the highest in the world, he works in several sciences and arts and lately in geopolitics) and lastly the most famous one, retired general Frangos Frangoulis.

State TV did not cover the event and expected a crowd of around 30k, presented it as fascist or nationalistic. Anthimos said to the people that they can go (he wasn’t very enthusiastic), and maybe he'll go there too (disobeying the Archbishop).

When the first signs of success appeared everybody turned out, all local New Democracy MPs attended, (Golden Dawn and ANEL of course), Anthimos not only was present, but he was sitting at a... throne (?) and the crowd was 90k to 500k depending on which side the estimators were.

It is now discussed that Frangoulis may lead a new party.

The point is that two weeks ago MPS were likely 80%-20% FOR a compromising agreement when the opinion polls were the opposite around 20%-80%. That will bring changes.

State TV has already apologised for not covering the event.

Church has announced that only 8 out of 90 Bishops attended it.

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there were quite a few in attendance. Strange for an event that was unintended.

Spreading of greek propaganda. A province that has taken shape over the past 100 years.

One attendee says "We are protecting our name from the other country that is fake"...very eloquently put by the protagonist.
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