Alexander statue arrived in Skopje

[Zarni]

I have given this 3 days to settle the Greek media and Foreign Minister came out with the same script, which as even bored Greeks. The Macedonian Government has chosen not to respond, right approach I believe no need to award the Greeks any attention even the Europeans have not got involved
The Foreign media has largely written positive story’s, whilst Macedonians love what they see
Some need to step back from this Forum and just realise a Statute of Alexander the Great grander than anything in Europe is to be seen by the world and any onlooker who see's it gets who this man on a horse is without any shreed of doubt

Bravo the end

[Vangelovski]

I have given this 3 days to settle the Greek media and Foreign Minister came out with the same script, which as even bored Greeks. The Macedonian Government has chosen not to respond, right approach I believe no need to award the Greeks any attention even the Europeans have not got involved
The Foreign media has largely written positive story’s, whilst Macedonians love what they see
Some need to step back from this Forum and just realise a Statute of Alexander the Great grander than anything in Europe is to be seen by the world and any onlooker who see's it gets who this man on a horse is without any shreed of doubt

Bravo the end

This August we can celebrate Ilinden together with the Bulgarians. Everyone looking on will know what its about, regardless of its Macedono-Bulgarian theme.

[Bukefal]

Yes Zarni, exactly.

The storm went away, Macedonia kept a a smart low profile, the statue in the meanwhile is being put up. Everyone knows who it is, nobody denies who it is and thats it.

Macedonia is satisfied, Macedonia has the last laugh and the Greeks are sweating and going crazy while there country is turning into a shithole, so who makes himself look bad again with childish behaviour after all? It's the greeks, again, not us.

So, I dont understand all the fuzz. We should not make an issue out of nothing.

[HELLENICLEAGUE]

The Foreign media has largely written positive story’s

I beg to differ. The foreign media has been quite critical, so has the European Union.

[vojnik]

Yes Zarni, exactly.

The storm went away, Macedonia kept a a smart low profile, the statue in the meanwhile is being put up. Everyone knows who it is, nobody denies who it is and thats it.

Macedonia is satisfied, Macedonia has the last laugh and the Greeks are sweating and going crazy while there country is turning into a shithole, so who makes himself look bad again with childish behaviour after all? It's the greeks, again, not us.

So, I dont understand all the fuzz. We should not make an issue out of nothing.

Calling it "warrior on horse" is a faction of denial, sure everyone knows who it is but it still doesn't make up for the fact that it isn't officially called Alexander the Great but "warrior on horse" why didn't they write "Socialist man" under Chento or "religous teachers" under Kiril and Metodij or "revolutionary on horse" under Goce Delchev it makes no sense by calling it "warrior on horse" your worsening the situation by admitting to Greek lies and implying that you conform with there stupidity instead of scrapping the Interim Accord

[vojnik]

I beg to differ. The foreign media has been quite critical, so has the European Union.

Post some links up

[HELLENICLEAGUE]

Google Macedonia in news and there u have it.

Show me one that is not sceptical and writes that this is not a questionable move by the Gruevski government.

Warrior on a horse.. Does Gruevsky think that the world is stupid or what?
Why doesn't he have the balls to name it what it is?

This only shows that he has no confidence in declaring to the world the true nature of the statue.
If he were sure and confident of Republic of Macedonia's relation with Alexander, he would have no problem naming it what it is.
This alone, shows a great deal about the whole nature of Alexander and the connection he has with your country. He has no confidence in calling him by his name.

The world is not stupid, and it is watching with dismay.

[julie]

that is because the likes of your lot will throw another tantrum and have another dummy spit moron

[HELLENICLEAGUE]

But if you are on the right, why would you care about the name?
You would have nothing to hide or be ashamed of saying it out loud.

PS: If Greece makes another statue about Alexander, no one in the entire world will see it as a questionable act, or a provocation, as do the entirety of the articles written about it.
Only Gruevsky perhaps, but judging from his attitude on the warrior on a horse, I guess he will stay silent.

[vojnik]

Google Macedonia in news and there u have it.

Show me one that is not sceptical and writes that this is not a questionable move by the Gruevski government.

Warrior on a horse.. Does Gruevsky think that the world is stupid or what?
Why doesn't he have the balls to name it what it is?

This only shows that he has no confidence in declaring to the world the true nature of the statue.
If he were sure and confident of Republic of Macedonia's relation with Alexander, he would have no problem naming it what it is.
This alone, shows a great deal about the whole nature of Alexander and the connection he has with your country. He has no confidence in calling him by his name.

The world is not stupid, and it is watching with dismay.

1.Obviously he doesn't think the world is stupid since he just spent a couple of million on a statue dedicated to the Macedonian hero

2.The reason from his end of not naming the statue as it should be is the fact that we are currently in a law suit with you lot because you broke the Interim Accord several times now if we named the statue Alexander the Great then you would use it in defence during that law suit. Doesn't really need an explanation.

3.Just because Gruevski got the people's vote to lead ther country it doesn't mean that every Macedonian see's eye-to-eye with his views if he is in denial of the relation of Alexander to the Republic of Macedonia that is his choice, but I can tell you the majority of Macedonians do feel the connection because there is one.

4. I'd rather you post some of these media reports so we can all view them since there are so many just to justify your argument

5.You need to understand that Macedonians from the Republic of Macedonia and diaspora if not all the majority see a connection with Alexander the Great if a few politicians decided to call it otherwise that doesn't mean that the people don't see the connection and that there is a connection

6. When Athens wanted to erect a statue of Alexander in its city square the decision was ridiculed by the people of Greece especially the historians from Greece itself. Why? You may ask, I'll tell you why because erecting a statue of Alexander the Great in Athens is like the Polish erecting a statue of Hitler in Warsaw.

[Bukefal]

Google Macedonia in news and there u have it.

Show me one that is not sceptical and writes that this is not a questionable move by the Gruevski government.

Warrior on a horse.. Does Gruevsky think that the world is stupid or what?
Why doesn't he have the balls to name it what it is?

This only shows that he has no confidence in declaring to the world the true nature of the statue.
If he were sure and confident of Republic of Macedonia's relation with Alexander, he would have no problem naming it what it is.
This alone, shows a great deal about the whole nature of Alexander and the connection he has with your country. He has no confidence in calling him by his name.

The world is not stupid, and it is watching with dismay.

No, he just thinks that you, the Greeks are stupid actually. And you are. Because of this, he got you all going crazy like a bunch of childish nutcases over nothing and by doing nothing lol. He is the one smiling with confidence right now and the insecured Greeks are going mental.

And no, again, the world is not stupid, but you are, and the world, including Macedonia is watching you with dismay and watching how you are ruining your own country.

[julie]

1.Obviously he doesn't think the world is stupid since he just spent a couple of million on a statue dedicated to the Macedonian hero

2.The reason from his end of not naming the statue as it should be is the fact that we are currently in a law suit with you lot because you broke the Interim Accord several times now if we named the statue Alexander the Great then you would use it in defence during that law suit. Doesn't really need an explanation.

3.Just because Gruevski got the people's vote to lead ther country it doesn't mean that every Macedonian see's eye-to-eye with his views if he is in denial of the relation of Alexander to the Republic of Macedonia that is his choice, but I can tell you the majority of Macedonians do feel the connection because there is one.

4. I'd rather you post some of these media reports so we can all view them since there are so many just to justify your argument

5.You need to understand that Macedonians from the Republic of Macedonia and diaspora if not all the majority see a connection with Alexander the Great if a few politicians decided to call it otherwise that doesn't mean that the people don't see the connection and that there is a connection

6. When Athens wanted to erect a statue of Alexander in its city square the decision was ridiculed by the people of Greece especially the historians from Greece itself. Why? You may ask, I'll tell you why because erecting a statue of Alexander the Great in Athens is like the Polish erecting a statue of Hitler in Warsaw.

Gospod zdravje da im dade, me umre od smea

[HELLENICLEAGUE]

All your points are valid, except the last one.

Historians argued both ways. Not all were in favour, and not all were against.
Athens lost its dominance when Phillip subdued them.
You have to know a bit about history to know the ballances that were at stake.

Here is a very good lecture, from a world leading university about the issue.
Its about the fall of the polis and the emergance of Macedon as rullers of Greece:

YouTube - ‪24. Twilight of the Polis (cont.) and Conclusion‬‏

Watch it all because it is worth it and rich in information.

[HELLENICLEAGUE]

Greeks are not going crazy about this. Actualy Greeks are lauging out loud at Gruevskys stupidity.
He has just made his biggest mistake.

[julie]

Greeks are not going crazy about this. Actualy Greeks are lauging out loud at Gruevskys stupidity.
He has just made his biggest mistake.

I hardly think your CCC rated country is in a position to be in such joy and mirth
hardly a mistake