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[Volk]

There is not enough room here for two Volks

[Rogi]

Most, if not all here would share the views of TMRO-VEP (Vardar Egej Pirin).

Unfortunately, they didn't receive enough votes in Macedonia to have any real voice.

If the Diaspora could vote, they would be the group closest aligned to the positions of the Diaspora, or the most significant part of the Diaspora.

It is sad that in Macedonia we have no groups that are unafraid to speak the truth without watering it down in diplomatic double speak whilst also having a real voice and influence. It speaks volumes for the apathy of our people.


Makedonski_Volk, I disagree with your observation. Many here do what we can and all we can for Macedonia and the Macedonian Cause, with what we have and within our capabilities.

As for a war in Macedonia, I personally believe you are wrong. That said, perhaps I should say that modern warfare and armies require not only soldiers, but also doctors, drivers, engineers, cooks, IT. And communications experts, and so on. So whilst you may not have many trained soldiers in the Diaspora, there are many experts in the other specialist fields that would contribute to the best of their capabilities.

[Prolet]

Volk, What are your thoughts of TMRO President Vanco Shehtanski?

Rogi, Excellent Analysis and i think alot has been done this forum is alot more then just talk thats for sure. Unfortunately we get people who think we can change things over night which is not the case. We have some good people in our community and in our forum, i would like to point out the success of us uniting with the Goran Pandev Fox Sports Saga with almost 7000 people supporting the cause on Facebook (Licna Kniga)

Rogi, I still think that people like Mane Jakovleski and Boris Zmejkovski need to get back into VMRO and keep close ties at least unofficially to the TMRO party lead by Vanco Shehtanski. We have heartless bastards making key decisions for our people, now on the MTB3 Channel (Parliament Channel) whenever there is somebody speaking in Macedonian there is a guy speaking Albanian in the background translating its a real disgrace and we cant allow this to continue on. Its like we are in a foreign country, the Albanians have the Al Sat Program which is a very professional channel for those who dont know so why should MTB give them an Albanian channel (MTB 2) plus translations in our parliament? Its really getting embarrassing actually, i think enough is enough this is just the start of Macedonia becoming a Selo Bez Kucina and you know what that means dont you, people do what they want in our country.

[Volk]

Prolet I do not know enough about him to comment. I saw a few TMRO members in Krusevo for Ilinden a few years ago... I asked them what they stood for because I had no idea. The main guy cynically said to me, "Sto mislis", I said if I knew I would not ask. He then went on raving about a final solution for the siptari... So from what I can tell they are fascists.

[Prolet]

Fascists?

Thats taking it too far i think, do you see them organizing rallies?

[sf.]

fas·cists /ˈfæʃɪsts/ [fash-ists]

–noun

People who organise rallies.

[Prolet]

Volk, What do you think parties like TMRO should do? Make Macedonia a Selo Bez Kucina?? Having the Albanians run our country into the ground?? If the Albanians were smart and competent they would achieve much more with rights as the other minorities like the Vlachs,Serbs,Turks etc

They are letting their own people down and they have proved over and over that they are incapable of running a country, the results speak for themselves they've only brought instability to our country.

[Volk]

Prolet, they are free to believe in whatever they want, however 'exterminating' or a 'final solution' comes from Nazi Germany.

I hope we have evolved as human beings to look past forms of genocide as an option.

[Rogi]

Is the term 'final solution' a verbatim quote or is that in your words, Volk?

[Volk]

I cannot remember the exact words Rogi however they where very close if not identical

[Rogi]

Well, let's see...

In another circumstance you have argued the technicality of the words used. For example, arguing that when the Macedonian PM says 'find a solution' in regards to the name, that he does not necessarily mean 'change the name', but rather a 'solution' in the broadest sense of the word.

So, if you apply your same reasoning from other circumstances and keep some consistency, I'd like to know exact words used and meaning given, otherwise it is not just hearsay, but your own (perhaps biased?) interpretation.

[Bill77]

Prolet, they are free to believe in whatever they want, however 'exterminating' or a 'final solution' comes from Nazi Germany.

I hope we have evolved as human beings to look past forms of genocide as an option.

da ti kazam pravo, skoro siguren sum deka ova e na site zelba. samo mora da e skrishno i ne od vladata.

[Risto the Great]

Most, if not all here would share the views of TMRO-VEP (Vardar Egej Pirin).

Unfortunately, they didn't receive enough votes in Macedonia to have any real voice.

If the Diaspora could vote, they would be the group closest aligned to the positions of the Diaspora, or the most significant part of the Diaspora.

It is sad that in Macedonia we have no groups that are unafraid to speak the truth without watering it down in diplomatic double speak whilst also having a real voice and influence. It speaks volumes for the apathy of our people.

Isn't it sadly amusing that the only party that represents a strong Macedonian stance in Macedonia gets no votes. Same goes for Vinozito. It would almost appear that part of being Macedonian means that you don't want to be Macedonian.

[osiris]

maybe we are to smart for our own good risto/

[EgejskaMakedonia]

Apart from their views concerning the Macedonian name and identity, what does this party stand for? Maybe this could be a factor in the lack of votes they receive. Although i agree with the cause they fight for, and many of you do too, if they were elected how would they handle other areas such as health, human services, transport, etc? How will unemployment be tackled?
For many Macedonians in the republic these issues take priority. The ability for the diaspora to vote could generate some momentum for this party due to similar viewpoints and this could possibly have a indirect influence on the voting of Macedonians in the republic.
I have barely heard anything about this party and this is most definitely one of the reasons they don't receive a whole lot of support. From a google search i failed to even find an official website.

I do like their flag though.