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  • vicsinad
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2337

    Ahmeti to Seek Resolution in Parliament Recognizing Genocide Against Albanians

    (google translate)

    Ahmeti: We will propose a resolution on the genocide committed against Albanians 104 years ago

    The remains of Albanian victims of massacres from 1913 to the Second World War found in the tombs were buried today in Zajas, Kichevo.

    The Organizing Council for the Discovering of Crimes against Albanians organized the transfer of the remains of victims of the genocide to Albanians at the Mother Teresa Memorial Center in Zajas.

    At the request of the Organizing Council for the detection of crimes against Albanians in the past century, Ali Ahmeti, as the initiator of the activities to clarify the genocide crimes against Albanians, delivered a speech to the audience, demanding solidarity from the Macedonians, as they said, and there were crimes against them. That is why we will insist on bringing a resolution in Parliament to condemn the genocide committed against Albanians 104 years ago. Let no one fear that we will not seek compensation because their lives can not be compensated with anything, Ahmeti said.

    A short speech was also delivered by Deputy Prime Minister Hezbi Lika, who pointed out that with the respect of these victims, he was told not to repeat such crimes.

    The Minister of Diaspora in the Government of Albania, Pandeli Majko, also said that "these people were killed because they simply spoke Albanian" and thanked the Macedonian authorities for allowing this event to be marked.

    Mayor of the Municipality of Kichevo Fatmir Dehari pointed out that as a municipality they supported the initiative from the very beginning because, they said, these people deserve this respect. The addresses of the mayor of Srbica, R. Kosovo Bekim Jashari as well as the head of the IVZ Sulejman Rexhepi.

    At the event at the Albanian Mother's Memorial Center in Zajas near Kicevo, members of the government cabinet from the DUI, as well as MPs from this party and other citizens, were present.

    Some time ago, in Zajas and elsewhere in Kicevo, tombs of victims of massacres of Albanians were discovered from 1913 until the Second World War.

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    • vicsinad
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 2337

      Number of Kosovo refugees STILL in Macedonia: 218,000.

      218,000 people are registered in Macedonia as displaced person from Kosovo, according to the UNHCR.

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      • Liberator of Makedonija
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 1596

        Originally posted by vicsinad View Post
        Number of Kosovo refugees STILL in Macedonia: 218,000.

        218,000 people are registered in Macedonia as displaced person from Kosovo, according to the UNHCR.

        http://mia.mk/en/Inside/RenderSingleNews/323/133975333
        I did not think the number would still be so high
        I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          No doubt not a single one of them votes in Macedonia .....
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Albo
            Member
            • May 2014
            • 304

            Where does it say that these displaced people are in Macedonia? And that they are Albanian?

            The displaced people they are talking about are mostly Sebs, Roma and Albanians from North Mitrovica .. who are either in Serbia or displaced within Kosovo..

            The refugees that remained in Macedonia were mostly from the Roma community.. very very few Albanians remained..

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            • vicsinad
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 2337

              Originally posted by Albo View Post
              Where does it say that these displaced people are in Macedonia? And that they are Albanian?

              The displaced people they are talking about are mostly Sebs, Roma and Albanians from North Mitrovica .. who are either in Serbia or displaced within Kosovo..

              The refugees that remained in Macedonia were mostly from the Roma community.. very very few Albanians remained..
              Ahh...very very few Albanians remained, huh? 1 remained? 2? 5? 10? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? name the number that you know so much about.

              And since you have trouble reading, the first sentence of the article ("The Number of Kosovo refugees in Macedonia remains high even though 18 years have passed...")

              I'll give you a couple times to read that and then to put 2 and 2 together.

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              • Albo
                Member
                • May 2014
                • 304

                Yes it says "Kosovo Refugees" not specifically Albanian Kosovars.. as I said the refugees that remained were mostly from the Kosovar Roma community..


                This is from Amnesty Internationals latest report on Macedonia..

                About 600 refugees, mainly Roma, who had fled Kosovo in 1999-2000, remained at risk of losing their access to livelihoods and other rights as the authorities continued to revoke their right to stay in the country on dubious grounds related to national security.




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                According this this report quoting the UNHCR in 2013 there were around 1100 refugees left..



                Again I stress and it's well know that the overwhelming majority of the refugees who remained in Macedonia after the war ended were Roma..

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                • mklion
                  Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 100

                  Originally posted by Albo View Post
                  Yes it says "Kosovo Refugees" not specifically Albanian Kosovars.. as I said the refugees that remained were mostly from the Kosovar Roma community..


                  This is from Amnesty Internationals latest report on Macedonia..

                  About 600 refugees, mainly Roma, who had fled Kosovo in 1999-2000, remained at risk of losing their access to livelihoods and other rights as the authorities continued to revoke their right to stay in the country on dubious grounds related to national security.




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                  According this this report quoting the UNHCR in 2013 there were around 1100 refugees left..



                  Again I stress and it's well know that the overwhelming majority of the refugees who remained in Macedonia after the war ended were Roma..

                  The real question is why won't they go back home ? It's because the racist Albanians have run any non Albanian including Serbians and Roma out of the country. Racist garbage.

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                  • Albo
                    Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 304

                    The real question is why won't they go back home ? It's because the racist Albanians have run any non Albanian including Serbians and Roma out of the country. Racist garbage.
                    The reason some of the Roma don't go back is because many were involved in war crimes and assisted the Serbian state apparatus to empty Kosovo of its Albanian population.. the Roma as in all parts of the Balkans live in almost every municipality.. the majority don't have a problem with them.. the ones who don't go back (including Serbs) don't do so as they are afraid of reprisal attacks for there involvment in the war.. the people know who was and wasn't involved..

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                    • mklion
                      Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 100

                      Originally posted by Albo View Post
                      The reason some of the Roma don't go back is because many were involved in war crimes and assisted the Serbian state apparatus to empty Kosovo of its Albanian population.. the Roma as in all parts of the Balkans live in almost every municipality.. the majority don't have a problem with them.. the ones who don't go back (including Serbs) don't do so as they are afraid of reprisal attacks for there involvment in the war.. the people know who was and wasn't involved..
                      Not really. 200000 Serbs fled and have not come back for fear of reprisals by Albanians who are RACIST. 200000 Serbs were not involved in war crimes and to even think this is the case makes me think you are extremely biased.

                      Pristina and Belgrade officials condemned violent protests by Albanians who prevented Kosovo Serbs from visiting an Orthodox church in the western Kosovo village of Mushtisht/Mustiste.


                      They won't even let 150 go to a church and protest that. Kosovar Albanians are racist bigots who discriminate against others practicing their right to practice their own religion freely.

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                      • Albo
                        Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 304

                        This might have somethingto do with the protest?

                        Mushtisht/Mustiste, which was mixed before 1999 war, was the scene of deadly violence and human rights abuses during the conflict. Many Albanians from the village are still missing
                        They won't even let 150 go to a church and protest that. Kosovar Albanians are racist bigots who discriminate against others practicing their right to practice their own religion freely.
                        You obviously don't know many Albanians if thats what you really think...

                        Look I'm not saying that innocent Serbs or other minorities shouldn't return to Kosovo..

                        But it's kinda hard for people to forget the decades of state sponsored abuse and discrimination from the Serbs..

                        Let's not.mention the war that left:

                        Over 10,000 Albanians civilians DEAD.
                        20,000 Women raped .
                        1.2 million people expelled from there homes.
                        Villages burned to the ground.
                        Thousands still missing..

                        Now if you had a family member go missing or was killed or raped by a Serb of Albanian of your village .. I'm sure you would be protesting too.. if not more...

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                        • Starling
                          Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 153

                          To my understanding, Kosovo is what happens when Albanian nationalism meets Serbian nationalism. Given precedence for falsified statistics on the part of Albanians and terrorist activities from the KLA, Albanians aren't free of guilt either. That NATO bombing was carried out under false pretenses and Serbia can be considered a victim in that case without ignoring the discrimination it carried out before that. Likewise Albanians being mistreated by Serbians doesn't erase that they're also running non-Albanians not involved in the conflict out of the region and have a noticeable tendency to populate and then attempt to take over regions of neighboring countries.

                          So long as this kind of behaviour continues, peaceful relations simply won't be feasible.

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                          • mklion
                            Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 100

                            Originally posted by Albo View Post
                            This might have somethingto do with the protest?





                            You obviously don't know many Albanians if thats what you really think...

                            Look I'm not saying that innocent Serbs or other minorities shouldn't return to Kosovo..

                            But it's kinda hard for people to forget the decades of state sponsored abuse and discrimination from the Serbs..

                            Let's not.mention the war that left:

                            Over 10,000 Albanians civilians DEAD.
                            20,000 Women raped .
                            1.2 million people expelled from there homes.
                            Villages burned to the ground.
                            Thousands still missing..

                            Now if you had a family member go missing or was killed or raped by a Serb of Albanian of your village .. I'm sure you would be protesting too.. if not more...
                            You can call it what you want. But a racist is a racist

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                            • Pelagonija
                              Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 533

                              Originally posted by Albo View Post
                              The reason some of the Roma don't go back is because many were involved in war crimes and assisted the Serbian state apparatus to empty Kosovo of its Albanian population.. the Roma as in all parts of the Balkans live in almost every municipality.. the majority don't have a problem with them.. the ones who don't go back (including Serbs) don't do so as they are afraid of reprisal attacks for there involvment in the war.. the people know who was and wasn't involved..

                              Albo that's a little bit rich.. every act of Albanian violence is justified as self defence based on assumption and no evidence..

                              Grow up a little...

                              Goraždevac murders, panda bar massacre, good Friday massacre, Podujevo bus bombing all hardcore Chetniks

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                              • Pelagonija
                                Member
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 533

                                Originally posted by mklion View Post
                                You can call it what you want. But a racist is a racist
                                What a load of crap..

                                US claimed 100 000 dead initially for propaganda purposes.

                                10000 is the accepted overall figure, this includes:

                                - Albanians killed by Serbs, NATO and other Albanians
                                - Kosovo Serbs
                                - Gypsies

                                20000 women were not raped, I think the Serbs were too busy trying to stay alive rather than walk around raping women

                                -1.2 million displaced? I recall Albanians laughing in blace then proceeded to cry when the CNN camera focused..

                                It's called propaganda my friend, how else would the US justify a war? Duhh? People cried, forgot about lewinsky.. America knocked over an independent country.. win win..

                                Dont believe western media.. or your Village historian..

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