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  • Daskalot
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    • Sep 2008
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    National Geographic, who were the Christian settlers coming to Aegean Macedonia, 1925

    Page 582.


    Page 590.


    Taken from the November issue of National Geographic year 1925. The name of the article is "History's Greatest Trek: Tragedy Stalks Through the Near East as Greece and Turkey Exchange Two Million of Their People" By Melville Chater.
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  • Royal Hellas
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    • Sep 2008
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    #2
    The population exchanges were a good idea.
    The eastern Hellenes came back to their mother land and the Turks went back to Muslim Turkiye.

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    • makedonin
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      • Sep 2008
      • 1668

      #3
      Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
      The population exchanges were a good idea.
      The eastern Hellenes came back to their mother land and the Turks went back to Muslim Turkiye.
      It seems that for this so called Hellenes the general meassure of being Hellene did not count!

      They did not speak any Greek

      you will argue day and night that some Ancient Macedonians "spoke" Greek and that's why they must have been Greeks, you will point out that they "had Greek Names" and that makes them Greek, but than again you fail to require the same thing from the Turk Christian Prosfigas. How many of them had siposedly Greek Names?

      At last you will argue day and night that this same Prosfigas are Makedonas, the proud anscestors of the Ancient Macedonians, even though they are in Macedonia for less than a Century.

      That's called double Standards, typical "Greek"
      Last edited by makedonin; 10-20-2008, 05:25 AM.
      To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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      • Royal Hellas
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        • Sep 2008
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        #4
        These eastern Hellenes were ethnic Greeks. What is so hard to comprehend?

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        • Daskalot
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          • Sep 2008
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          #5
          Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
          These eastern Hellenes were ethnic Greeks. What is so hard to comprehend?
          Ethnic Greek you say, what is that? What was their connection to Greece other than their religious affiliation, they belonged to the Patriarch church. Please tell me, would you like to share a poem or two written by the Karamanlides of Cappadocia.... please.
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          • makedonin
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            • Sep 2008
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            #6
            Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
            These eastern Hellenes were ethnic Greeks. What is so hard to comprehend?
            How comes this "Ethnic Greeks" had to learn Greek, the very foundation of your Greekness?
            To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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            • Risto the Great
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              • Sep 2008
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              #7
              Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
              These eastern Hellenes were ethnic Greeks. What is so hard to comprehend?
              Being Greek is a modern national construct.
              The eastern hellenes you describe pre-date the modern Greek and in fact were another nation waiting to happen. Why are you so eager to bunch all ethnicities? Are Cypriots ethnic Greeks also?
              Risto the Great
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              • Royal Hellas
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                • Sep 2008
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                #8
                They were a vital segment in rebuilding Greece after the Ottoman experience.
                The Cypriots are ethnic Greeks of course, not to be confused with the Turkish Cypriots, ok?

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                • makedonin
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                  • Sep 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
                  They were a vital segment in rebuilding Greece after the Ottoman experience.
                  The Cypriots are ethnic Greeks of course, not to be confused with the Turkish Cypriots, ok?
                  all good, but don't avoid the question:

                  Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
                  These eastern Hellenes were ethnic Greeks. What is so hard to comprehend?
                  How comes this "Ethnic Greeks" had to learn Greek, the very foundation of your Greekness?
                  To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                  • Royal Hellas
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                    • Sep 2008
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                    #10
                    Because they were exposed to Turkish culture,similar to an ethnic Greek being raised in America, the first language is not Greek but American. Still an ethnic Greek though, "Greek by genus" as the Greek government says.

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                    • makedonin
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
                      Because they were exposed to Turkish culture,similar to an ethnic Greek being raised in America, the first language is not Greek but American. Still an ethnic Greek though, "Greek by genus" as the Greek government says.
                      Did they run Genetic test, to prove them that they are Greek by Genus?

                      and just because they are "Greek by genus" what ever that may be, they have the right to be called Makedones and be the heirs of Ancient Macedonians, even though they are less then a Century here in Macedonia. And we have to change our Name and Identity cause them?

                      all wanna be Turks
                      To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                      • Risto the Great
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                        • Sep 2008
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
                        Still an ethnic Greek though, "Greek by genus" as the Greek government says.
                        Is it an ethnic Greek or Greek by genus? And is the Greek government an appropriate authority to quote on this matter? Why did so many of your "Greeks by genus" become Romanians last century? Sorry, you will have to try much harder to convince us. You will really have to work on your definitions, by definition a Greek is a modern Greek as the country did not exist before 1830. Therefore, to lump all of these races into the modern Greek identity as being part of a "genus" is ... well ... optimistic. Are the French actually Italians by genus? Can you identify any departure from your logic in this example?
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Svoliani
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #13
                          Lets all read what the uchitel has underlined..

                          " The last arriving GREEK boys staring broadly at the last departing MOSLEM boys. Speech between them being impossible, since the GREEKS spoke only Turkish and the TURKS spoke only Greek."

                          So it clearly says that they were Greeks who spoke Turkish. Wow what a shock for everyone. Of course there were lots of real Turks in Asia Minor and these Greeks were exposed to the culture and learned the language. But this seems impossible for you , how can someone learn a second language?!?!?! That cant be possible can it.

                          The question of the day that you need to ask yourselves is why the TURKS coming from Macedonia spoke GREEK and not MAKEDONSKI EZIK when Ethnic Macedonians were the clear MAJORITY in the region according to our historians here!!! Thats what you need to ask yourself, why in the hell these Turks didnt manage to learn Makedonski instead they learned GREEK when apparently there werent ANY Greeks in Belo More Macedonia!!

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                          • Royal Hellas
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                            • Sep 2008
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                            #14
                            Makedonski language wasn't around at the time.

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                            • osiris
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                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1969

                              #15
                              Makedonski language wasn't around at the time.
                              how can one continue dialogue with such people.

                              svoliani as your buddy royal butt licker affirms there was no makedonski then any way, what ever language the departing muslims spooke, if it was not turkish, greek officials would have happiuly informed the journailts , they were in fact speaking a greek tongue.

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