Macedonian " was a class of citizenship, not an ethnic term

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  • TrueMacedonian
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3810

    Macedonian " was a class of citizenship, not an ethnic term

    There were of course very many Jews in Alexandria who were not legally Alexandrians. Josephus' assertion did not and could not mean that every Jew in the city was, by the very fact of his residence, an Alexandrian. Nowhere in the ancient world could citizenship be acquired except by birth or by special decree. Jews who emigrated from Palestine to Alexandria, and were permitted to remain there, were metics, and became Alexandrians only if they were specially awarded that designation. But that was just as true for a foreign Greek or a foreign Macedonian, since at Alexandria " Macedonian " was a class of citizenship, not an ethnic term. Those who assisted in the founding of the city were undoubtedly classified either as " Macedones " or " Alexandreis," and the tradition that Jews were among them is based upon other authority than Josephus. It is not enough, therefore, if one desires to refute Josephus, to show that there were Jews in Egypt who were not " Alexandreis." Undoubtedly there were thousands of them. But if, in the papyri, we do find Jews among the " Macedones " and others among the " Alexandreis," the statements of Josephus on the subject are strikingly confirmed, for he says no more than that there were Jews in both these categories.
    The Jews among the Greeks and Romans By Max Radin page 110.


    Is this Max Radin character right or wrong in assuming this?
    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
  • sf.
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 387

    #2
    It's hard to say without studying the primary sources.

    The definition of the term 'Macedonian' in Egypt as presented in the above argument, does not deny the existence of an ancient Macedonian ethnos or nation (depending on the basis of self-identity of Ancient Macedonians).

    Edit: it is illogical to assume that a 'foreign' Macedonian wouldn't be accepted as a Macedonian. What period is this referring to?
    Last edited by sf.; 04-24-2010, 05:37 AM.
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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13670

      #3
      Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
      The Jews among the Greeks and Romans By Max Radin page 110.


      Is this Max Radin character right or wrong in assuming this?
      It's possible in some cases such as this.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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