Jason Miko and the movie - A name is a name

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  • Makedonska_Kafana
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2642

    #16
    Originally posted by Frank View Post
    Clearly any Macedonian that doesn't buy this Video inst part of the cause
    Well if we want more of these films and people are going to take personal financial risks we need major support from the Macedonian diaspora. It takes a combination of support and corporate sponsorship to make it possible.

    At bare minimum of 15,000 people must view it or groups buy the film in bulk just to cover costs. How many Macedonians live in diaspora countries? Every church should buy 100 copies to help ..
    Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 10-24-2010, 09:24 PM.
    http://www.makedonskakafana.com

    Macedonia for the Macedonians

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    • Vangelovski
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 8532

      #17
      Jason Miko

      Who is he? Is he Macedonian? If not, what are his motivations?

      An associate just pointed out to me a comment he made on facebook:

      Sometimes the US gets it right: "While the MACEDONIAns need to “climb down” on issues such as naming their airport, they have a reasonable case on other topics such as their language, the name of their citizenship, etc. Some “climbing down” is needed on both sides."
      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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      • fyrOM
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 2180

        #18
        Doesn’t help much but it’s a start.

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          #19
          Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
          Who is he? Is he Macedonian? If not, what are his motivations?

          An associate just pointed out to me a comment he made on facebook:



          http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...p?id=781539257
          "climbing down"...is the guy serious, we're already sitting in the gutter.

          I thought Miko was generally pro-Macedonia, that is until somebody pays him more to represent their side of the debate...

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          • Bill77
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 4545

            #20
            Vangelovski,

            I am not sure if you already know, but Jason Milko is one of the producers of the Doco "A name is a Name" He is the one that came down to Australia as some kind of special guest or promoter when they were showing the doco around the world.

            That quote you posted was from a cable by wikileaks. Here is a post regarding this leak by RTG

            According to the reports, Wikileaks will soon release millions of new documents(they said, it will be 7 times the size of the Iraq War logs in which it posted 400 000 secret documents) which shows very confidential information of US government. US government already panicked a lot and they sent a warning to several countries
            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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            • fyrOM
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 2180

              #21
              I thought that statement sounded familiar…I think its not by him.
              see
              Macedonian Truth Forum > General Discussions > World Macedonian Diaspora Post097
              Please let me know what Macedonians are doing where you live. This will be an action and event message centre not hey lets support the Government of Macedonia - DIASPORA MATTERS and CONCERNS Thanks http://worldmacedonian.forumaster.net/viewforum.php?f=2

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #22
                I would love to be proven wrong. But I suspect Miko is a classier version of the opportunistic Macedonian who hangs around Macedonian events selling patriotic ornaments for personal gain.

                I regard the Name is a Name film as something like my description above.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Vangelovski
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 8532

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                  Vangelovski,

                  I am not sure if you already know, but Jason Milko is one of the producers of the Doco "A name is a Name" He is the one that came down to Australia as some kind of special guest or promoter when they were showing the doco around the world.

                  That quote you posted was from a cable by wikileaks. Here is a post regarding this leak by RTG

                  http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...&postcount=121
                  I know he is the producer of that documentary. I also know where there quote is from. The question is why is he promoting it and suggesting that the analysis is reasonable?

                  On that note, I havn't seen 'A name is a name', but I have not heard good reviews from friends that have. I can't really comment on it until I actually see it though.
                  If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                  The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                  • blackcactus
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 242

                    #24
                    Jason is a US citizen of Hungarian ancestry, he has spent about 7 years in Macedonia, he loves the place (I have talked with him), he is extremely well spoken, even using Macedonian to address people

                    The film-documentary 'Name is a Name' is in my opinion a nice 'first' production from this guy, he wanted to high-light the stupidity of our name situation, and the Human rights issue that this exposes

                    The movie is more Human rights than strictly political propaganda, virtually everyone from the directing, production, music, is non-Macedonian

                    The movie is most valuable as a gentle way of informing non-Macedonian's of our Human rights issues

                    Jason does encourage Macedonians to step up and defend themselves vigorously, and that is partially why he has put the movie out to the Macedonian community around the World

                    The people involved in this movie are very well intentioned, but they are not Macedonians, and therefore lack the true anger we feel

                    Jason is releasing another movie about Lerin in the near future, he is also considering doing a movie-documentary about the Macedonians in Greece, and as some point another one about the diaspora

                    From meeting him and listening in on a Q&A he is a genuine advocate for Macedonian Human rights, but he is not a Macedonian, so don't expect the same anger from him as we may all feel

                    To get down on this bloke and his movie would only be shooting ourselves in the foot



                    PS: Factoid: The Iceland Government was to have a screening of this documentary (as it was directed by an Icelandic director and they wanted to support it) but was canceled only days before, the Greek government threatened Iceland with "consequences" (barriers to EU integration) if they showed this documentary formally to senior diplomats
                    Last edited by blackcactus; 12-19-2010, 04:17 AM.
                    The one who tells the story rules the World - Hopi proverb

                    “Your highness, when I said that you are like a stream of bat's piss, I only meant that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark” - Monty Python

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      #25
                      Originally posted by blackcactus View Post

                      The movie is most valuable as a genital way of informing non-Macedonian's of our Human rights issues
                      ...so in other words we're fucked...?

                      sorry BC, couldn't help myself...

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                      • blackcactus
                        Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 242

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                        ...so in other words we're fucked...?

                        sorry BC, couldn't help myself...
                        Trust you to spot that

                        I've edited it for clarity now
                        The one who tells the story rules the World - Hopi proverb

                        “Your highness, when I said that you are like a stream of bat's piss, I only meant that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark” - Monty Python

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                        • Vangelovski
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 8532

                          #27
                          I don't expect him to show any "anger", but I don't see how he can support human rights if he thinks we need to "climb down" in relation to some of them. Perhaps he only supports some human rights and not others?? Though, that is a massive contradiction!
                          If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                          The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #28
                            Anger ostensibly can come from non-Macedonians.
                            In this instance, if Miko is in agreement that Macedonians need to "step-down" in relation to some rights, then one wonders what even motivates a non-Macedonian to concern himself with Macedonian affairs.

                            I am left with the same conclusion that I reached at the end of watching the film. Ours is a battle that Macedonians must initiate and drive.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • Mr Brandy
                              Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 144

                              #29
                              Jason didn't make those statements - he posted them to his page - presumably to foster a debate which then took place with 20 odd comments. The statement came out of the wiki-leaks if I recall.

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                              • Bill77
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 4545

                                #30
                                The end of the day, Jason is not Macedonian therefor he would never feel and totally understand what it really means to be a Macedonian. Otherwise obviously he would not back such comments.

                                I am sure he does sympathize with the Macedonians and as BC said,"The people involved in this movie are very well intentioned". But i am also sure that opportunism is the driving force behind any support he shows publicly or activities he gets involved with. This should not come as a surprise, especially when we have our own (Macedonians) that try to benefit from our dilemma (some in a more sinister way), why would it be strange for a non Macedonian to capitalize on the situation.

                                Regarding A Name Is A Name, i felt the production quality was quite amateurish. It looked like scenes were just slapped in, a feeling that it was done in a hurry just for the sake of getting something out there. Its something that anyone could have done with a camcorder and a basic film creation software on their computer. Mabe they had a funding issue which could be an excuse.

                                But in saying all this, any exposure would be valuable i guess, regardless of motives.
                                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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