Edinstveni Makedonski Zborovi - Unique Macedonian Words (postable)

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  • Mr. MASO
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 82

    and "OPA" ot kade toa??????? gercite e moze i serbite go imat toa.. dali e Makedonski???

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13670

      Sardisa may be an adaptation of a Turkish word, I will have to re-confirm.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • DrVosi
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 18

        Why do you have Kinisa on your list ???
        This is clearly a loan from Greek. Its from the Greek word Kino or Xekino. This is basic stuff . Uptade your list when you get a chance
        Cheers

        ----
        Dr AV*

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        • Daskalot
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4345

          Originally posted by DrVosi View Post
          Why do you have Kinisa on your list ???
          This is clearly a loan from Greek. Its from the Greek word Kino or Xekino. This is basic stuff . Uptade your list when you get a chance
          Cheers

          ----
          Dr AV*
          DrVosi, why do we mere Slavs from the Pripet marshes have "pure" Greek words like; kinisa, mirisa, livada, geramida just to name a few......

          Didn't the invading Slavs have words for these very basic things, the surely must have had one for "Kinisa" because they left from somewhere.....
          Macedonian Truth Organisation

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13670

            Doctor,

            Thanks for the diagnosis, I will look into it. If you are correct, the list will be updated.

            Cheers,

            Lord of Macedonia
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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            • makedonin
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1668

              Kinisa is certainly not a Greek as you like it to be.

              Kinisa > Go is mostly used when departing from Home for example or when one person stay behind, while the other goes on jorney!

              The root of the word is from Kine > to split, to tore apart i.e. to depart.

              Thus the word is composed of root and the suffix: Kine -isa, as I already stated the suffix -isa is mostly used to describe a process or dynamic of something.

              In this case the process is the Departure the Splitting from home etc. and it has the Metaphoric meaning of GO mostly spoken out as instruction or even command.

              No Kino thing or what so ever there, you can find it only in the Cinema Dome
              Last edited by makedonin; 05-05-2009, 03:31 AM.
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              • Spartan
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1037

                The isa signifies 'I went'
                Kin-ise- 'he went'
                kin-isane- 'they went'

                It is not used for 'departing from home, while one person stays behind'.
                It simply means go, or move as in 'kinetic'

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                • makedonin
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1668

                  Originally posted by Spartan View Post
                  The isa signifies 'I went'
                  Kin-ise- 'he went'
                  kin-isane- 'they went'

                  It is not used for 'departing from home, while one person stays behind'.
                  It simply means go, or move as in 'kinetic'
                  Do you speak the Macedonian language Spartan? How fluently are you using it?

                  Sorry Spartan the -isa is a suffix in Macedonian.

                  Kinisane would mean more the "the beginning of the process of moving or departing" but not in third plural case as you used it! In third plural it will be Kinisaa or Kinisuvaa for past tense.

                  Kinise I would understand more to mean to torn apart but a a command in anger for example, similar to (s)kina se where Skina > to torn apart.

                  For "I went" you would say Kinisav and for the present moment Kinisuvam or Kinisvam

                  Simple case for you:

                  Some person tells you: "Go to the shop and buy milk" > "Odi u prodavnicata i kupi mleko"

                  You say: "I will go" > "Ke odam"

                  But you stay a while longer than expected by this person, and she/he asks you to do what you were told.

                  You reply: "Kinisuvam" meaning I am going, departing right now when you ask me to again!
                  It is the use case, how and where you use it.

                  As far as I am aware, no one uses this word to say "I am going".

                  in those cases, you will simply say: "Ja odam"

                  It is not all Greek in this world dude.

                  Kinetic or not, it certainly has other use case and different root or background, thus different word!

                  Or you will argue that the Japanese Sushi > fish meal and Macedonian Sushi >to get dry are the one and same !?

                  You will certainly say that they are same, since the Sushi meal is dry
                  Last edited by makedonin; 05-05-2009, 07:38 AM.
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                  • Spartan
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1037

                    I was talking about the word , and how it is used in Greek.
                    I speak no Macedonian.
                    Sorry for the misunderstanding.

                    My earlier post is correct in regards to how the word is used in Greek.
                    Kin-isa, the isa means 'I'
                    kin-ise, the ise means 'you/he/she'
                    kin-isane the isane means 'they'

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                    • makedonin
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1668

                      Originally posted by Spartan View Post
                      I was talking about the word , and how it is used in Greek.
                      I speak no Macedonian.
                      Sorry for the misunderstanding.
                      Ok, I did not figure it out, that you are arguing the Greek usage of kinetic.

                      My bad too, could not see it
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                      • Prespa
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 18

                        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                        gredam = I am coming = doidam
                        We also use gredam in Strbovo, Prespa.

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

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                          Ronche Jeremov saying "g r e d a m".
                          Risto the Great
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                          • Sarafot
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 616

                            How about zborot SKAPAN- SKAPANA- SKAPALO SE, broken, is it our?
                            Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
                            - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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                            • makedonin
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1668

                              I just saw the poppy thread in the other section.

                              So I thought about the Macedonian names of it:

                              Poppy > Афион > Afion

                              Poppy > Mak

                              Poppy > Bulka

                              If you check in Google translate, you would get the Mak as a general name for poppy through out the Slavic speakers, as well as Romanian.

                              In Greek it is: παπαρούνα > paparouna similar to the Italian word: papavero.

                              Albanian is: lulekuqe


                              It appears that Poppy > Афион > Afion is genuine word in Macedonian.

                              What do you think!?
                              To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                              • Magedon
                                Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 50

                                Not only that but OPI UM is pure Macedonian word as you can see. That wich Opi-januva Um.

                                I bulka nema vrska so afion, bulki se crveni cvekinja.
                                Makedonsko devojche, kitka sharena; od gradina nabrana - dar podarena - IMA LI ?????

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