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Old 06-23-2016, 11:39 PM   #1
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The BREXIT referendum has succeeded. This is a major blow for the EU, that biased and corrupt organisation that has treated Macedonia so unfairly since our own independence. The problem (or not?) for the UK now is that the Scots may again vote for independence (which I support fully). The erroneous border that separates Ireland from its northern part will also be another factor which will require assessment. A Europe of sovereign states may again be on the horizon. Macedonia pay attention, especially the politicians with deluded EU aspirations.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:47 PM   #2
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I just created a thread in the General Discussion forum regarding this topic so you may want to merge it to here, attached was an article from the BBC.

Apparently MP's from both Scotland and Northern Ireland have stated that they intend on seeking a referendum on independence from the UK based on their voting results, while others are already calling for Cameron's resignation.

Interesting times ahead...
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:51 PM   #3
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Thanks TM, I have added the article you posted below.
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So it looks like Britain voted to Leave the EU with most media outlets calling it a 52% to 48% win for the Leave campaign

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028

EU referendum: BBC forecasts UK vote to leave

28 minutes ago

The UK has voted by 52% to 48% to leave the European Union after 43 years in an historic referendum, a BBC forecast suggests.

London and Scotland voted strongly to stay in the EU but the remain vote has been undermined by poor results in the north of England.

Voters in Wales and the English shires have backed Brexit in large numbers.

The pound fell to its lowest level against the dollar since 1985 as the markets reacted to the results.

Referendum turnout was higher than at last year's general election.

Labour's Shadow chancellor John McDonnell said the Bank of England may have to intervene to shore up the pound, which lost 3% within moments of the first result showing a strong result for Leave in Sunderland and fell as much as 6.5% against the euro.

'Independence day'

UKIP leader Nigel Farage - who has campaigned for the past 20 years for Britain to leave the EU - told supporters "this will be a victory for ordinary people, for decent people".

Mr Farage - who predicted a Remain win at the start of the night after polls suggested that would happen - said Thursday, 23 June would "go down in history as our independence day".

He called on Prime Minister David Cameron, who called the referendum but campaigned passionately for a Remain vote, to quit "immediately".

A Labour source said: "If we vote to leave, Cameron should seriously consider his position."

But pro-Leave Conservatives including Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have signed a letter to Mr Cameron urging him to stay on whatever the result.

Labour former Europe Minister Keith Vaz told the BBC the British people had voted with their "emotions" and rejected the advice of experts who had warned about the economic impact of leaving the EU.

He added: "It will be catastrophic for our country, for the rest of Europe and for the rest of the world."

Exit process

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said that the EU vote "makes clear that the people of Scotland see their future as part of the European Union" after all 32 local authority areas returned majorities for Remain.

Britain would be the first country to leave the EU since its formation - but a leave vote will not immediately mean Britain ceases to be a member of the 28-nation bloc.

That process could take a minimum of two years, with Leave campaigners suggesting during the referendum campaign that it should not be completed until 2020 - the date of the next scheduled general election.

The prime minister will have to decide when to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, which would give the UK two years to negotiate its withdrawal.

Once Article 50 has been triggered a country can not rejoin without the consent of all member states.

Mr Cameron has previously said he would trigger Article 50 as soon as possible after a leave vote but Boris Johnson and Michael Gove who led the campaign to get Britain out of the EU have said he should not rush into it.

But they also said they want to make immediate changes before the UK actually leaves the EU, such as curbing the power of EU judges and limiting the free movement of workers, potentially in breach the UK's treaty obligations.

The government will also have to negotiate its future trading relationship with the EU and fix trade deals with non-EU countries.

In Whitehall and Westminster, there will now begin the massive task of unstitching the UK from more than 40 years of EU law, deciding which directives and regulations to keep, amend or ditch.

The Leave campaign argued during a bitter four-month referendum campaign that the only way Britain could "take back control" of its own affairs would be to leave the EU.

Leave dismissed warnings from economists and international bodies about the economic impact of Brexit as "scaremongering" by a self-serving elite.
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Old 06-24-2016, 12:05 AM   #4
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...big LOL to Scotland and all those servile bastards that voted against independence...

What now...surely the entity known as the UK is now under threat and where to for the pan European project itself, surely the EU is now under existential threat...
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Macedonia pay attention, especially the politicians with deluded EU aspirations.
Don't worry, Poposki was barracking like a good little boy for Britain to remain in the EU at a summit in Paris yesterday, while also talking about how dedicated we are to join and be part of the "decision making process"... Details in the below article:

http://www.mia.mk/en/Inside/RenderSi.../200/133225900
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I was listening to some of the 'Remain' supporters the other night, particularly an Aussie ex-pat working in London who was worried he wouldn't be able to retire to the south of France if 'Leave' won...suck shit mate lol...

Nice to often hear references to Australia and New Zealand (and Canada) as great examples of countries doing a great job on the international stage all on their own.
Congratulations to the 'Leave' camp...well done.
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Huge news.
Meanwhile, Macedonia still pretends getting in the EU is the key to happiness. I'm in the capital of Catalonia right now. Let's see how this news reverberates!

I also just spent big on the ASX, some bargains there.
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That is indeed a good news for Greece too. (I've always been a supporter of Grexit; and I don't mean only from the Euro currency).

Shit happens when you have the crazy idea to ask the people.

As for Scotland (or even Catalonia in Spain), these tendencies wouldn’t have grown if it wasn’t for EU. They are a byproduct of the new reality that countries don’t really matter and are just European provinces.
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Is this official? I mean,have all votes been counted?
According to Macedonian media outlets,the "leave" camp lead by 52 to 48 percent after two-thirds of the votes counted...
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Is this official? I mean,have all votes been counted?
According to Macedonian media outlets,the "leave" camp lead by 52 to 48 percent after two-thirds of the votes counted...
Yes the Leave campaign has officially won the referendum

Remain: 48.1% (16,141,241)

Leave: 51.9% (17,410,742)

96% of Gibraltar voted to remain

David Cameron has just resigned
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