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Old 07-30-2018, 07:13 PM   #141
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I've always found J2a1b1's too clingy.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:17 PM   #142
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Who says ancient Greek is not also ancient Macedonian? I would be very surprised if the ancient peoples of the Balkan peninsula varied much DNA wise. Before the Romans invaded the region the peoples would have been pretty homogeneous I would expect.
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J2a was found in Minoans and Mycenaeans.
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Elaborate please.

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Old 08-01-2018, 01:31 AM   #145
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Scientist have found ancient DNA from Mycenaeans and Minoans.

However, J2a is a very diverse haplogroup, it is found high in Caucus, Anatolia, Levant, Italy, south Balkans etc. And it covers a considerable proportion all the way to west China.

For example in Cypriots and Pontic Greeks J2a (which is high there) is of Near Eastern origin (Lazes, Armenians, Levantines), not old Greek.

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Haplogroup J2a has been found in the following 'clans' in Montenegro: Пјешивци (Pyeshivtsi) and Цуце (Tsutse).

The closest to Perunovic from Pyeshivtsi is an Italian from Verona (Turtelli). Haplogroup J2a is often associated with Etruscans as well, so its presence in these parts of Italy is not surprising.

Turtelli has been tested on 37 markers, so the age of the 'common ancestor' can be roughly estimated. Namely, Perunovic and Turtelli had a 'common ancestor' about 2000 years ago.

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The 'DNA story' and timeline I received from ancestryDNA is rather interesting and is not related to the haplogroup result I shared already (I found that out by exporting the raw data results I received). The DNA story one receives from ancestryDNA is represented in a timeline and indicated by big (or small) 'circles' or 'dots' on a map.




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Old 08-25-2018, 08:49 AM   #147
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The 'DNA story' and timeline I received from ancestryDNA is rather interesting and is not related to the haplogroup result I shared already (I found that out by exporting the raw data results I received). The DNA story one receives from ancestryDNA is represented in a timeline and indicated by big (or small) 'circles' or 'dots' on a map.
So, will you share the results? We're interested in the format, not your actual ancestry. Is it worth it?
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Old 08-25-2018, 01:07 PM   #148
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:21 PM   #149
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So, will you share the results? We're interested in the format, not your actual ancestry. Is it worth it?
It depends what you are looking for (?). I honestly didn't do a thorough review/comparison of different ancestry testing services, and went with AncestryDNA as the kit was on sale - the price was significantly reduced. Some online classify AncestryDNA as the best service for what it offers and price-point.

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-dna-test/

Also, 3 Mistakes to Avoid When Shopping for a DNA Test:
https://geneticsdigest.com/best_ance...SAAEgJ3pvD_BwE

Anyway, AncestryDNA will present your Ethnicity results based on different AncestryDNA Regions, such as: Europe South, Europe East, Europe West, Caucasus, Middle East, etc. Each of these regions has its own sub-regions.

For example, I am mostly Europe South (primarily located in "Italy/Greece", with the sub-region "Greece, Turkey & Albania" - Rep. of Macedonia is included within this sub-region "Greece, Turkey & Albania" - but it also appears under Europe East), and Europe East coming in second. I also have traces from other regions which AncestryDNA classifies as Low Confidence Regions, such as: Caucasus, Europe West and even Finland/NW Russia!

Sub-region "Greece, Turkey & Albania"
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Old 08-25-2018, 07:17 PM   #150
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I lot of Macedonians I know which have taken the AncestryDNA test have been falling into this so-called "Greece, Turkey & Albania" subregion. Quick question Carlin, did you specify any prior information with regards to your background to AncestryDNA?
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